Hi
We sometime use OneNote together with our LabTrove ELN system to get the best of both worlds as LabTrove does insure full provenance and no deletes etc.
Jeremy


From: Andrew MacLellan <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
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Date: Wednesday, 29 April 2015 10:58
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Subject: Re: Evernote as an ELN

Hi Clair,

Thanks for the info. I enjoy using OneNote for my own work as well, I haven’t really had any experience of using it collaboratively but it clearly has good tools for this. I still wouldn’t recommend it as an ELN because things can be deleted, including previous versions, and version history can be disabled. I think OneNote is great though so if you or anyone else on the list would disagree, or has any suggestions for simple workarounds I would be keen to hear.

Thanks,
Andrew


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From: Research Data Management discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clair Thrower
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Subject: Re: Evernote as an ELN


Hi Mary and Andrew,



I can’t comment on EverNote, but I use OneNote extensively both independently and collaboratively.  It is possible to track who made changes to a shared notebook in OneNote, and to search by author (as well as keyword, user defined tag, recent edits etc).  We’ve used SharePoint for the storage location, which works well as we control the permissions locally – though OneDrive would be better if contributors include those outside the institution.



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Kind regards

Clair



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Subject: Re: Evernote as an ELN



Hi Mary,



I think the main thing which Evernote (and OneNote) lack is the ability to sign and counter sign entries. Paper lab notebook entries are pretty much 'uneditable', ELNs offer the same functionality through electronic signatures, but after an entry is made in Evernote, anyone can go back and change that and as far as I'm aware, it doesn't record what changes are being made and who is making them (the premium version has some kind of revision functionality I think). If you speak to your contracts/IPR managers I'm sure they would agree that lab notebook entries need to be traceable and easy to authenticate - it should not be possible to delete or edit parts of a lab notebook entry after it has been created and signed.



The data storage location issue I think is more of an institutional decision, I'm not familiar with Evernote's data security.



There are definitely examples of people using Evernote as an ELN and being quite happy with it, a google search will bring up various articles including this one - doi: 10.1177/2211068212471834.



Andrew



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From: Research Data Management discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mary Donaldson

Sent: 28 April 2015 16:09

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Subject: Evernote as an ELN



Hello,



Not sure how relevent this topic is for this list, but invistigating the feasibility of using ELNs is something that falls under the remit of our service. We've been approached by an EPSRC researcher who is considering using Evernote as an ELN, including uploading photos of lab book pages as well as data.

Does anyone have any experience with this?

Some questions that have come to mind are...



-where does the data reside in Evernote? Would it comply with EPSRC Expectation VII - 'all reasonable steps will be taken to ensure that publicly-funded data is not held in any jurisdiction where the available legal safeguards provide lower levels of protection than are available in the UK'



-do any examples of workflows encorporating Evernote exist?



Cheers,

Mary



Service Coordinator

Research Data Management Service,

University of Glasgow