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Re: evidence based for a phased rtw

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She would hit the roof lol she really is not very appraochable.

Thanks though 
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On Fri, 4/24/15, Gloudon Vicky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] evidence based for a phased rtw
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Friday, April 24, 2015, 4:27 PM
 
 Hi Dawn,
 
 Have you suggested she self-refer to Remploy mental health
 support services? We have had good feedback from clients
 using this service
 
 Regards
 
 Vicky 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: [log in to unmask]
 [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
 On Behalf Of Sarah L Redfearn
 Sent: 24 April 2015 10:26
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] evidence based for a phased rtw
 
 Dawn,
 
 Sounds like quite a complex case for you and it sounds as
 though you and the Organisation have actually done quite a
 lot to support this individual.  Ultimately the
 individual also has to take some responsibility for their
 health and their return to work.
 
 Have you explored her motivation to resume working? 
 Perhaps ask her the magic question..."if there is anything
 at all that can be done, what would it be?"  This might
 give you an indication of how they see their future with
 regards to work. Using a CBT approach of challenging some of
 her thoughts and beliefs about work may help for some
 perspective to be gained, although you need to be happy to
 do this.  I might also suggest mediation for the person
 she is not happy to work with.
 
 Try not to become too overwhelmed with the case, give your
 advice as you would usually, if you feel that there is no
 further advice about her health in relation to work at this
 time that you can offer at this time, it is okay to say
 this.  I can sometimes find myself looking for a
 solution to a situation, however it might not exist. 
 OHA's are advice givers and the Organisation need to take
 the responsibility for implementing that advice or
 not.  
 
 I have had a look for a some evidence to support the 3 month
 phased return being reasonable however all I can find is
 that it is reasonable to review the phased return
 periodically, perhaps this is something that you should
 consider doing and if the phased return looks like it will
 be extended longer than the 3 months, then the Organisation
 should decide if this is acceptable for them or not. 
 They can then speak with the individual and tell them that
 the phased return will or will not be supported further.
 
 Sarah
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: D Veal [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
 
 Sent: 24 April 2015 09:39
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] evidence based for a phased rtw
 
 Thank you Jo.
 
 I have a lady off work 6 months with fibromyalgia. and her
 symptoms are multiple including anxiety,poor sleep pain and
 so on. She has under c/o of OH started a RTW plan and the
 company have listened to her concerns and made adjustments
 to include having a certain person with her who she feels
 comfortable to work with ( she has also a ongoing feud with
 another work colleague and they are both not happy to work
 together) she has started on 3 days 3hrs per day and this is
 flexible to avoid peak traffic, then 4 days same with
 wednesday off then gradually aim to  increase her hors
 on these and then back fill wednesday last. I felt that a 6
 week period would be fair.
 
 Had a letter from GP as (company funded 6 months of
 psychotherapy and have now said not funding anymore) they
 feel this should continue and that she should have pahsed
 plan over 3months with gradual increase in hours and role.
 
 I have suggested that she sits with manager to break down
 her role into red,amber and green of the work she feels is
 most difficult for her and then bring this to next review
 and so we can marry the hours and role together as we
 increase her.
 
 However I feel that 3 months is not reasonable. Has anyone
 had a simialr case and how did they manage it and what do
 others feel is reasonable?
 
 
 I want to be fair but feel this person is expecting a lot
 and not from experience taking enough responsibility
 themselves. ( they were offered medication and they refused
 and the tone of reports from the specialists involved are
 that they have given advice and she has refused it for her
 own personal reasons(The end result is they have suggested
 pilates/yoga and tai chai and deep breathing.)
 
 I just want to ensure I have some evidence base to my
 reports on RTW.
 
 I know that most PHP's feel if a person is not fit to RTW on
 a minimum of 4 hrs per day that they are not fir.
 
 I think OHA's offer a little more felxibility but the intial
 request by this person was for 2hrs per day. I said if she
 couldnt do 3 hrs then I felt she was unfit.
 
 She has had a panic attack in her first week at work and
 been in tears. I am due to review next week.
 
 Thought please.... AKA help!
 
 D :)
 
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