Dear Parvati,

That is indeed an important issue, albeit only loosely related.

Ethical publishing should indeed include responsability for working conditions at subcontractors. In that respect it is comparable to the clothing or electronics industries. I wonder if anyone has done research in this area.

I say loosely related because I'm not sure whether these conditions are any different for gold open access versus paywalled publishing models.

Best,
Jeroen



Op 2 apr. 2015 om 15:24 heeft "Parvati.Raghuram" <[log in to unmask]> het volgende geschreven:

> In all of this it might be worth thinking about the other end of publishing - the labour of a whole series of editors and production managers working long hours on low salaries in countries like India, doing sub-contracted work for publishing houses, trying to cater to the ever-diminishing time-frames in which we expect their work to be done. And the behaviour of 'star' academics who expect the editors to be available at times convenient to themselves, irrespective of the time-difference.
> 
> I have seen the front-end of this at close hand - it is not pretty!
> Parvati
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> From: Davies, Gail [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 02 April 2015 12:15
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: New open access journals: Geo - Geography and Environment
> 
> Dear Jeroen and all,
> 
> Thanks for this check list. It is really useful to be able to take back into conversations with Wiley and the RGS.  We hope the community will keep pushing us like this in productive ways. It is really appreciated.
> 
> To follow up, and in response to the other thoughts on publishing models, I’d like to make three general thoughts:
> 
> 
> 1)      There isn’t going to be one solution. I think ongoing innovations in DIY and platinum OA academic publishing are fantastic. But I think a ‘mixed economy’ is needed to carry the publishing of a whole discipline. My concern is the labour of academic re/production, especially the mundane parts of publishing, may well fall on the most precarious in the discipline, as we have seen with other tasks. I am interested in the ways non-profit organisations and charities (like the RGS, but also with Antipode, Sociological Review etc) are now working with publishers, acknowledging this is not the only route.
> 
> 2)      The general question is OA a better model that subscription models depends on academic involvement and the ability of academics to reimagine their conversations and ways of working. Subscription rates have rocketed with few checks, in shifting the funding to authors, there is some potential to make publishers more accountable. But more than this, many of us work with collaborators and audiences (arts, NGOs, policy, internationally, pedagogically) that exceed ’conventional’ academic journal subscribers. They are locked out of access to this work. Open access articles are getting more and wider traffic and may be productive of new ways of working collaboratively.
> 
> 3)      The issue of access to APCs is a key one, and I think relates to the points above – that there is not going to be one solution and we need constant pushing to push back to publishers. But there are also actions we can all take. There is a particular opportunity for those working collaboratively in LMI countries to explore co-authorship, and the order of co-authorship, to genuinely open up access to academic publishing in a way that hasn’t already happened, despite the long history of the subscription based journal.
> 
> Then a very minor point – Geo is in effect continuous publishing. The issues are an administrative inheritance we are trying to shift.  Small steps.
> 
> Sorry I won’t be in Chicago early enough join Simon and others on Tuesday, but I will be around at the AAG from that afternoon and happy to talk OA at any point.
> 
> Best
> Gail
> 
> 
> From: Bosman, J.M. (Jeroen) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 02 April 2015 11:37
> To: Davies, Gail
> Subject: RE: New open access journals: Geo - Geography and Environment
> 
> Dear Gail,
> 
> Thanks for this and good to hear Geo is gaining momentum.  It is certainly a valuable addition to the landscape. I will add this to the list of optional OA publication venues when advising authors, despite the rather high APC.
> 
> But maybe there is still opportunity to go a little bit further. Below I have checked how Geo scores on the “wish list” posted on crit-geog. I hope Wiley will make further steps.
> 
> V - fully Open Access
> V - APC waivers for those who apply (e.g. from LMI countries)
> V - online only
> V - indexing at least by Google Scholar and DOAJ, at a later stage also Scopus, Web of Science and others (I expect that is in the works)
> V - making it easy to link to additional material (data, video, code etc.) shared via external platforms like Zenodo or Figshare
> V - using DOI
> 
> (choice) - CC-BY license
> ? - in principle no size restrictions
> ? - no IF advertising
> ? - open for text mining
> ? - using e.g. LOCKSS or Portico for digital preservation
> 
> X - maximum APC of 500 USD (or perhaps a lifetime membership model like that at PeerJ) (Geo APC at Wiley currently at USD 1440)
> X - authors retain copyright
> X - no issues: continuous publishing
> X - peer review along PLOS One idea: only check for (methodological) soundness (and whether it is no obvious garbage or plagiarism), avoiding costly system of multiple cascading submissions/rejections
> X - peer review reports themselves are citable and have DOIs
> X - post pub open non anonymous peer review, so the community decides what is the worth of published papers
> X - providing a suite of article level metrics
> X - really international profile of editors/board
> X - making (small) updates to articles possible (i.e. creating an updated version)
> X - using ORCID
> X - optionally a pre-print archive (but could rely on SSRN as well)
> 
> Best,
> Jeroen
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> From: A forum for critical and radical geographers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Davies, Gail
> Sent: donderdag 2 april 2015 11:23
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: New open access journals: Geo - Geography and Environment
> 
> Dear Critters, Tim and Jeroen
> 
> Congratulations on the new Geohumanities journal and thanks for the follow up Jeroen. This is in part a response to the conversation, and in part simply promotion.
> 
> The Royal Geographical Society has recently launched a new Journal, Geo – Geography and Environment<http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/journal/10.1002/%28ISSN%292054-4049>, in association with Wiley. The journal is publishing four kinds of original peer reviewed articles: research articles, review papers, commentaries and data and digital humanities papers.  The journal encompasses the full discipline of human and physical geography, and aims to support data sharing, open science, interdisciplinary research and interactive forms of knowledge production. You can read more about the journal in the opening editorial<http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/geo2.1/full> written by editors Gail Davies (University of Exeter) and Anson Mackay (UCL).  We have just published our first commentary, by Sabina Leonelli, Daniel Spichtinger and Barbara Prainsack, which is on open science<http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/geo2.2/abstract>.
> 
> In response to Jeroen’s thoughts: Geo is fully open access, with high quality peer review. We hope the APC is reasonable – there is an RGS blog post on accessing funds for these here<http://geobyte.rgs.org/post/115123663354/open-access-the-challenge-of-paying-apcs-some>, details for Wiley institutional account holders here<http://olabout.wiley.com/WileyCDA/Section/id-420429.html>, and info on their philanthropic programme for global south authors here<http://www.wileyopenaccess.com/details/content/13707a1ddf6/Waivers-and-Discounts-on-Article-Publication-Charges.html>. Authors can choose their Creative Commons Attribution License and so shape the reproducibility of their work. As a new production line, it’s been slower than we’d like, but we’ve been told the teething issues are now resolved and we are aiming for fast.
> 
> Data sharing is central to what we are hoping to do, but we also recognise this requires changes beyond journals. We have a blog post<http://blog.geographyandenvironment.com/> in response to our first article which suggests universities have a key role to play here.  We’d like to encourage the research community to come to us with their proposals for data articles, as well as critical and creative responses to the changing landscapes of knowledge production and circulation that could follow from open access. We think geographers should both be leading and tracing these.
> 
> But, we’ve not gone done the route of open and post pub peer review. We felt open access, interdisciplinarity and data articles raised new issues to keep us busy in the opening stages. Do let us know if we could do more to innovate in this direction. As editors we are really open to ideas on how best to make open access work for the geographical community.
> 
> We are of course also open to your proposals for articles. The full papers for our first issue will follow online shortly and we look forward to your ideas and submissions for future ones.
> 
> 
> 
> With best wishes
> 
> Gail
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