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Sorry. That was meant to say thank you very much.
Rosemary
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Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the
First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner
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> Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the
> First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner
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>> Plastic images of John's head on a charger exist in media other than
>> alabaster. Barbara Baert, "The Head of St. John the Baptist on a Platter:
>> The Gaze of Death", _Ikon_ (Croatia) 4 (2011), 1-12, is a useful
>> discussion, nicely illustrated, of such images in late medieval thought
>> and practice. It's available on the free Web at academia.edu:
>> https://www.academia.edu/5334063/The_Head_of_Saint_John_the_Baptist_on_a_Platter._The_Gaze_of_Death_in_Ikon_4_Croatia_2011_p._1-12
>> TinyURL for that:
>> http://tinyurl.com/qagzhhe
>>
>> A partial answer to Rosemary's question about provenances occurs in the
>> second paragraph of this discussion (also from 2011) of the late medieval
>> English alabasters:
>> http://www.bowdoin.edu/news/archives/1academicnews/008214.shtml
>> Specimens of this craft were exported commercially in large numbers. Most
>> of those that remained in England or went to Scotland will have been
>> destroyed during the Reformation (or discarded then and destroyed later);
>> most of those that one sees today in the V&A (and, presumably, in the
>> Burrell Collection as well) returned to the UK with modern travelers who
>> had acquired them abroad.
>>
>> Beyond that, most of these images were created for private devotion. By
>> the time these objects reached today's major museums their later owners
>> will in many instances have had little or no knowledge of the specifics
>> of their original use. The Louvre too has a collection of such alabasters
>> and I suspect that its provenances for these are likewise largely
>> uninformative.
>>
>> Best,
>> John Dillon
>>
>> On 02/24/15, Genevra Kornbluth wrote:
>>> I've always assumed that the head alabasters were displayed in much the
>>> same way as other subjects, but will be most interested in other ideas!
>>> Here's another example
>>> http://www.kornbluthphoto.com/JohnBaptist.html
>>> row 5 no. 3
>>> Genevra
>>>
>>> On 2/24/2015 6:26 AM, Rosemary Hayes-Milligan and Andrew Milligan wrote:
>>> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>> >culture
>>> >
>>> >Superb image and background description Gordon. The first time I saw
>>> >Nottingham alabasters in any number was on my first visit to the
>>> >Burrell collection in Glasgow - hugely frustrating because there is no
>>> >provenance with any of the pieces. Is that typical? Do we just have the
>>> >panels with
>>> >no indication of where and by whom they were originally used?
>>> >
>>> >Rosemary Hayes
>>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Plumb"
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>>> >Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 8:47 AM
>>> >Subject: Re: [M-R] FEAST - A Celebration for the Day (February 24): the
>>> >First and Second Finding(s) of the Head of St. John the Forerunner
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
>>> >culture
>>> >
>>> >Only marginally relevant to this is the fact that the head of John the
>>> >Baptist was a major subject of Nottingham
>>> >alabasters: Here is an example in the Castle Museum in Nottingham.:
>>> >
>>> >https://www.flickr.com/photos/22274117@N08/16244647939
>>> >
>>> >Gordon Plumb
>>> >
>>
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