This is just to say thanks for all the great discussion around this topic as it is incidentally helpful to me as well!
I just joined the Royal Academy of Arts in January to coordinate digitisation of 10,000 objects in the collection, many of which are historic illustrated volumes. We are having a lot of discussions here around how upgrades to our collections management system might handle these records better, but also, more relevantly, how they will be displayed to the end user. Andrew, it sounds like we are in a very similar position as far as content and audiences so I would be interested to hear how you go forward with this, and from anyone else who may have other experience or resources to share.
Many thanks again,
Liz
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andrew Davis
Sent: 16 February 2015 13:48
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Subject: Re: Presenting Multiple images of objects
Thanks all,
Some really helpful suggestions on here, that we will certainly look into as we develop the tool.
To answer Mia's questions - although they may well have been superseded by the discussion over the weekend!:
We are primarily interested at the moment in a general audience with this interface, although the likelihood is that the heavy users are most likely to be researchers rather than a general browser. We'd ideally like to be presenting key/pretty/eye-catching images, as well as signposting that the full set (and in some cases, partial set - only what was wanted for an exhibition photographed etc) are also available. We've thought no more than that we'd signal that people could browse further if they want - how we flag this extra content exists is a very good point....
We've actually been pre-emptied over the our larger records as we've apparently already implemented the 12 image limit in the interests of improving performance on the current site - but as an example of a record that contains multiple images here is https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/1123464/the-little-gidding-concordances-the-whole-law-of-god-as-it-is-delivered-in-ye. (also highlights a problem with using titles in URLs, but that's another story).
The Internet Archive is an interesting suggestion, and its interesting to see the weight of support for the various IIIF browsers that are available (Mirador, Wellcome Player, IIP Image viewer). My initial concern with these would be that they might be a bit heavy duty - we are not yet ready for annotations, sharing content with other institutions, but on a basic level they seem to do much of what we are looking for.
We shall keep digging around!
Many thanks,
Andrew
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mia
Sent: 13 February 2015 17:24
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Subject: Re: Presenting Multiple images of objects
What an interesting dilemma! Do you have an example of a record with 450 images you could share, to help people understand the context?
A few questions... Who are your target audiences? And could the images be grouped by type, or prioritised by relevance/quality/whatever? And are all the images different, or are some close duplicates that could be left out?
Are you looking for ways to signal the availability of the full set of images for those who want to delve into everything while shielding the casual visitor from information (and browser) overload, and if so, what kind of information would people need to assess whether or not they wanted to follow the link for more images?
I read quite a bit on the Internet Archive (beta interface:
https://archive.org/details/harvardclassicss01elio classic interface:
https://archive.org/details/harvardclassicss01elio) and I like that they offer PDF, Kindle, ePub etc download options as well as an in-browser interface (including decent zoom when the image supports it, but then it's hard to move around the page without triggering the forward/back navigation). I'm not a huge fan of animations that just seem to add delay to the turning of a page, but it can work well for illuminated manuscripts.
Cheers, Mia
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On 13 February 2015 at 16:09, Andrew Davis < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> I wonder if I could take advantage of a Friday afternoon to ask the
> list's advice?! At the Royal Collection, we are working on the
> relaunch of our online collection to replace the current version at
> www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection<
> http://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection>.
>
> One of the issues that we currently have is how to present
> objects/records with multiple images related to them - in the current
> site we have records with as many as 450 images attached, causing load
> issues and being very difficult for users to navigate. As we work
> towards digitising the collection, this is only likely to become more
> of a problem, but the advice of our designers/developers is to limit
> the number of resources that we return against each record, and so we
> are currently looking at a maximum of 12.
>
> For 3-d objects, we intend to embed animation/film where we have it of
> the item working/being opened, as a more effective visual presentation
> of an item, using Vimeo. Our bigger challenge is with
> books/manuscripts/photo albums etc. We're thinking of following the
> turning the pages style route for this material, and wondered if there
> were any examples of really successful implementations out there? I'm
> aware of things like Wellcome Player, which looks really interesting,
> and we've also considered something like http://fliphtml5.com/ which
> we've used in the past for Annual Reports and brochures.
>
> Are we missing something obvious? As always, there's budgetary
> constraints at work, and we need to have something that we can make
> available in the near future, but we'd need the solution to be
> scalable and ideally one that will last us for the lifetime of this
> iteration of our online collection.
>
> Any comments and suggestions gratefully received!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Andrew Davis
>
> Collection Online Content Manager
>
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