Thanks Stafford
Much appreciated.
Mike
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On 13 Feb 2015, at 21:35, Stafford Linsley wrote:
> The simple answer to Mike's question is that Newcomen engines were very
> common in the North East at mid C18.
>
>
> William Brown of Throckley, a noted colliery viewer, who supervised the
> building of many such engines, produced a list of Newcomen Engines at work
> in the north in 1769. He lists about 90 of them on the NE coalfield (some
> place-names are uncertain)
>
>
>
> Stafford
>
>
>
> On 13 February 2015 at 18:00, Mike Syer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I'm sorry to ride upon David's original message, as this is probably not
>> of interest to him in his enquiry about Barnabas Brough. But can anyone
>> advise how common were such "fire engines" in the North East at that time -
>> i.e. late middle 18th century?
>>
>> An agreement and release held by Durham County Record Office (Ref. D/X
>> 769/1), dated 12 August 1778, records that that John Burdon of Hardwick had
>> "for many years worked Quarrington Colliery adjoining the Coxhoe estate and
>> has erected and used a 'Fire Engine', engine house, engine man's house,
>> smith's shop etc. standing on the Coxhoe estate when John Swinburn
>> purchased the estate from him, and that some of the coals were led for a
>> short distance over the estate".
>>
>> The location of what must surely (from the sketch included) be a Newcomen
>> steam engine is shown in Quarrington, on a map dated 1797, of the estates
>> of the executors of the late John Burdon. (I don't know the source of this
>> map, a copy of which I found among documents in a 1995 opencast planning
>> application. If anyone's interested, the NZ map coordinates are something
>> like 431738 / 537059.) I did think this must have been the same engine as
>> the one mentioned earlier, until I realised that it was about 500 yards
>> north of the Quarrington-Coxhoe boundary. (Quarrington and Coxhoe were not
>> just different townships; they were different royalties. Burdon owned the
>> freehold of the Coxhoe one (as well as the estate) and leased the
>> Quarrington royalty from the Bishop of Durham.)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> ====
>>
>> On 9 Feb 2015, at 15:08, Poyner, David wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks; I will contact Les. Brough was only ever a minor player, but he
>> does seem to have had some interesting contacts. From what I can see, he
>> lived to be nearly 100 and was active well into his 70s, so he spanned the
>> generations.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: mining-history [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of Ian Winship
>>> Sent: 09 February 2015 14:18
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Re: Steam engine erection
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I asked the Librarian at the Mining Institute in Newcastle to do a quick
>> check and I looked at their lists of archive material and checked the
>> Durham Mining Museum site, but we have found nothing.
>>> Apparently local historian Les Turnbull is working on a book on William
>> Brown, so may be able to help. You can contact him via the Institute -
>> mail [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Hope this is of use.
>>>
>>> Ian Winship
>>>
>>> ============
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9 Feb 2015, at 08:41, Poyner, David <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>> I am trying to trace the career of Barnabas Brough. He was born in
>> Chester-le-Street in 1731 and according to a memoir he published, around
>> 1765/6 he was employed to erect a "fire engine"; this was when he met his
>> wife, Sarah Hemple, who he married in Newcastle in 1766. Does anyone know
>> of a steam engine that was being assembled at a Tyneside (or at least,
>> North-east) colliery at this time? My guess is that he worked for William
>> Brown, the leading colliery engineer in the Great North Coalfield at this
>> time, but I have no direct evidence for that.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> David Poyner
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