All

The CILIP-BL Committee on RDA maintains a list of openly-accessible training
materials on RDA on its website:

http://www.slainte.org.uk/aacr/training.htm

Cheers

Gordon

> On 25 November 2014 at 10:50 Stephen Cook <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> Apologies for diverting from ‘recruitment’ but I’m unavailable this afternoon.
> 
> Thank you for this opportunity to gather further knowledge into cataloguing.
> I have worked here at the RCOG for 13 years but for the last 2 years
> cataloguing has taken a back seat and I have a backlog as I’m also responsible
> for procurement of e-resources and maintenance of them.
> 
> I would like to know more about RDA Cataloguing and have found a good
> resource.
> https://cambridgerda.wordpress.com/
> 
> The only thing I’m finding difficult is finding the time do take advantage of
> this free resource.
> 
> Steve.
> 
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> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Amy
> Staniforth [mws]
> Sent: 25 November 2014 10:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Getting started - Session 1
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I’m at Aberystwyth and 0.5 of my job is cataloguing and we have one other 0.5
> role. I started in April 2013 and have only just (this week) finished the
> first stage of a cataloguing manual and put it on sharepoint. Nothing about
> what we do, how or why, was in writing in one place.
> 
> So, I have been reluctant to take on volunteers although this is often
> proposed here as a solution to uncatalogued material. Like Bernadette, I’d
> need to know the volunteer was going to stay on after training, and to be
> honest, I would rather some members of staff here understood things like LCSH
> and the point of RDA.
> 
> The library often has graduate trainees here for the year and in January I’m
> hoping to spend some time with this year’s as he has a strong interest in
> special collections but he usually only gets a day at a time with a team so
> that makes cataloguing training tricky.
> 
> If I manage to get organised before we get our new LMS next year I would like
> to ask staff who run our librarianship courses if they or some postgraduates
> would be interested to sit in on the process – they don’t teach cataloguing
> currently, which I think is a real shame as I would have loved it!
> 
> Amy
> 
> 
> Dr Amy Staniforth
> 
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> 
> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette
> O'Reilly
> Sent: 25 November 2014 10:26
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Getting started - Session 1
> 
> I hate to say it, but volunteering is not always a practical answer for
> organisations which use international standards such as RDA and LCSH.  The
> training is a really big investment both for the organisation and for the
> cataloguer – I reckon about 100 hours’ work for the cataloguer.  And training
> is not enough – it takes practice to get up to speed.  We wouldn’t offer
> training to anyone who was not committed to putting in a lot of cataloguing
> hours after training.
> 
> I wonder whether there are ways in through less-than-full cataloguing?  We
> have volunteer language specialists who create brief records (reduced
> description, no access points or subject headings, records not exported to
> OCLC), which requires very little training.
> 
> Does anyone have experience of volunteering (either as volunteer or as
> manager)?
> 
> Best wishes,
> Bernadette
> *******************
> Bernadette O'Reilly
> Catalogue Support Librarian
> Bodleian Libraries,
> Osney One Building
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> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Doyle,
> Helen
> Sent: 25 November 2014 10:10
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] Getting started - Session 1
> 
> I think the first question there is a real problem! If you have no experience,
> how can you start applying for cataloguing jobs? Volunteering is the usual
> answer, but it’s very hard to do that if you are already working in a
> full-time job.
> 
> Are there any managers out there who would consider an applicant who had no
> cataloguing experience at all?
> 
> Helen.
> 
> 
> 
> From: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bernadette
> O'Reilly
> Sent: 25 November 2014 09:57
> To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [CIG-E-FORUM] Getting started - Session 1
> 
> [Apologies if this crosses with other posts and introductions – there can be a
> delay of several minutes before posts appear]
> 
> Hello all, and welcome to the first session of this e-forum!
> 
> In this session, from now until 1.00 p.m., we would like to focus particularly
> on  recruitment, and we hope to hear not just from people who are starting but
> also from people who have experience and advice to offer.  These threads can
> continue during other sessions – we know that many people will be able to look
> in only occasionally – but the other sessions will introduce other topics.
> 
> My own job includes providing training, documentation and advice for the 200+
> cataloguers in about 100 locations who contribute to the Oxford Libraries
> Information System (OLIS), ranging from the Bodleian Libraries’ full-time
> cataloguers to multiskilled staff working in one- or two-person libraries.
>  Many OLIS cataloguers cannot make time to attend long courses and some do not
> have much inhouse support, so it’s a challenge to devise training which is
> manageable but reasonably comprehensive – a lot of it has to be through
> self-tuition modules.  If one of the smaller libraries needs to recruit a
> cataloguer they may not have any other cataloguing staff, so I am sometimes
> asked to help with recruitment.
> 
> Just to get things started, here are a few questions which occurred to the
> moderators.  Please jump in with your ideas on them, or any other questions
> and/or ideas which occur to you.
> 
> - How can someone with no cataloguing experience acquire enough
> knowledge/skills to make a convincing job application?
> 
> - Can anyone suggest books, online resources, courses or other resources
> (especially inexpensive ones) which would help someone hoping to move into
> cataloguing to make a convincing application?
> 
> - Do most people have experience in other library roles before moving into
> cataloguing?
> 
> - What if you were trained in AACR2 and the jobs now seem to specify RDA?
> 
> - Managers: What knowledge/skills do you look for in applicants? What else is
> important?
> 
> - Do you use “objective” tests in recruitment (or have you experienced
> objective tests)?  If so, can you give examples?  Did they help?
> 
> - How important is it for applicants to offer knowledge/skills in a range of
> metadata types, e.g. Dublin Core, MODS?
> 
> - How important is it for applicants to offer knowledge/skills with non-book
> materials?
> 
> - What can/should organisations do to help employees interested in cataloguing
> to acquire relevant skills before applying for cataloguing  roles in that
> organisation?
> 
> - Is the balance changing between professional cataloguing roles and
> paraprofessional roles (e.g. downloading external records, non-structural
> checking, editing and upgrading, adding holdings/items)? If so, is this a good
> thing?
> 
> - What are the career prospects in non-traditional cataloguing agencies, e.g.
> outsourcing firms and e-resource suppliers?
> 
> Looking forward to hearing from you.
> 
> Best wishes,
> Bernadette
> *******************
> Bernadette O'Reilly
> Catalogue Support Librarian
> Bodleian Libraries,
> Osney One Building
> Osney Mead
> Oxford OX2 0EW.
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> For course enquiries (cataloguing, holdings & items):
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