Thanks Dorothy. We don't have puffin crossings here in Ireland. I presume
that whatever technology is used to ensure that signal stays green for
pedestrians still on the crossing is not particularly unique to puffins,
and could be used on other types of crossings (subject to regulatory
approval etc)?
Regards
Shane
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From: Dorothy Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: 04/09/2014 09:17
Subject: Re: New research and campaign from Living Streets UK calls for
longer crossing times for pedestrians
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8rDH7ms18U
See link above to video with sub-titles showing the features of a Puffin
Crossing provided by the Department for Transport (DfT). The Puffin
Crossing includes detectors so that traffic does not move until the
crossing is clear of pedestrians.
Hope this assists.
Regards,
Dorothy
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Subject: Re: New research and campaign from Living Streets UK calls for
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Hi
Thanks for highlighting this. I’m aware of this being a big cause for
concern, and I share the concern about us pedestrians being permitted
sufficient time to cross; and I’ve taken part in surveys in the past to
assess the feasibility of crossing from one side of the road to the other
during the ‘green man’ phase.
However, whilst conducting research on the subject of pedestrian crossings
earlier this year, I have become aware of the official position, which is –
as I understand it – that the ‘green man’ phase on controlled crossings is
an invitation to cross, rather than – as most of us would assume - a time
limit during which the pedestrian must do their best to make it from one
side of the road to the other. So even if you start crossing a moment or
two before the end of the ‘green man’ phase, you still have right of way
across the road until you get to the other side. So in this sense, the
variability in the speed with which different pedestrians are able to cross
is already allowed for. In reality, however, most of us don’t understand
the ‘green man’ phase in this way, and feel like we need to get across
before the light changes. Again as I understand it, Puffin crossings seek
to allow for this by extending the red phase for traffic so long as there
is a pedestrian crossing the road who started crossing during the ‘green
man’ phase. However, there is some evidence suggesting the pedestrians
don’t like Puffin Crossings, I think because they can’t see a green man on
the far side of the road.
All of the above applies in the UK, but I’m not sure whether it also
applies internationally. In any event, I think there is great scope for
the position to be clarified and awareness to be raised about the time
pedestrians actually do have to cross the road.
Best wishes
Bryan
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Subject: Re: New research and campaign from Living Streets UK calls for
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I would really value any input in this regard as we are just experiencing
an increase in shared space between pedestrians and cyclists here in
Winnipeg Canada.
Judy
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Subject: Re: New research and campaign from Living Streets UK calls for
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A rumour I heard was that Boris Johnson was keen to speed up the 'green
man' because as a cyclist he felt he was waiting too long for the
pedestrians.
I'm sure there are statistics on accidents in London involving cyclists and
pedestrians too.
I will certainly follow this one up.
Thank you
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On Sep 3 2014, Shane T. Hogan wrote:
>This is a very real issue here in Ireland, where many older people and
>people with disabilities struggle to cross junctions within the permitted
>times.
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http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/make-a-change/urgent-actions/crossings/a-review-of-pedestrian-walking-speeds-and-time-needed-to
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>http://www.livingstreets.org.uk/make-a-change/urgent-actions/crossings
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>
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/davehillblog/2014/sep/03/campaigners-call-for-longer-road-crossing-times-for-london-pedestrians
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>Shane Hogan
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