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Morgan
Wheatley might well say of your comment (as did Brian in Monty Python's
LIFE OF BRIAN when the crowd accused him of being the Messiah and he
denied it several times and they responded "only the true messiah denies
his divinity" and he eventually said "What chance does that give me? oh
all right, I AM the Messiah!") --
"oh all right I AM a mage, despite everything I have written warning
against the 'evils' of black magic."
I think myself that if a mage wished to remain unknown he or she would
simply do so.
best
Leigh (Fr HekAL)
On 21/07/2014 8:26 PM, Morgan Leigh wrote:
> Greetings,
> Wheatley's public statements about magic are exactly the position a mage
> might adopt if he wished to remain unknown...
>
> Regards,
>
> Morgan Leigh
> PhD Candidate
> School of Social Sciences
> University of Tasmania
>
> On 17/07/2014 3:47 PM, Leigh Blackmore wrote:
>> Dennis Wheatley was definitely not an occultist.
>>
>> While he came to be considered an authority on Satanism, the practice of
>> exorcism, and black magic, he was hostile to all these (see for instance
>> his introduction to his nonfiction study THE DEVIL AND ALL HIS WORKS in
>> which he warns against any reader getting caught up with what he saw
>> only as "dark forces". This seems clearly a conservative kneejerk
>> reaction to active involvement with practical occultism). The nearest
>> Wheatley came to practical involvement was that during his study of the
>> paranormal, he joined The Ghost Club.
>>
>> Like Lovecraft, it seems Wheatley merely mined occult practice for
>> titillating ideas for his thrillers.
>>
>> regards
>> Leigh Blackmore (FR HekAL)
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranormal>
>>
>>
>> On 16/07/2014 11:27 PM, William wrote:
>>> Hello;
>>>
>>> H P Lovecraft and Dennis Wheatley were definitely Occultists.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> On 15 Jul 2014, at 15:31, Susan Johnston Graf <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dan and everybody,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for all the great suggestions and for the opportunity
>>>> to discuss my project with knowledgeable folks. I’ve learned some
>>>> things and redefined my direction. I might just be able to get that
>>>> sabbatical proposal completed in time J. Thank you all!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Susan Johnston Graf, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>> Associate Professor of English
>>>>
>>>> Penn State Mont Alto,
>>>>
>>>> Mont Alto, PA 17237
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Society for The Academic Study of Magic
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Harms
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 15, 2014 10:18 AM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] British writers who are occultists
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To add a couple thoughts of my own:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You might track down Marsha Schuchard's dissertation Freemasonry,
>>>> Secret Societies, and the Continuity of the Occult Traditions in
>>>> English Literature. That has a good amount of material on Blake, and
>>>> it might provide some other sources.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Samuel Taylor Coleridge once corresponded with John Denley to obtain
>>>> books for a series of lectures on the supernatural, although that
>>>> doesn't make him an occultist by any means.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *From:*Society for The Academic Study of Magic
>>>> <[log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Susan
>>>> Johnston Graf <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:08 PM
>>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> *Subject:* [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] British writers who are occultists
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I write with a question. I am thinking about British writers and
>>>> occultism. Some of you know me or my work. I have written a book on
>>>> W. B. Yeats and occultism and have a book forthcoming on Yeats,
>>>> Blackwood, Machen, and Fortune and the Golden Dawn. Now I am
>>>> thinking about writers who were (or may have been, or are reputed to
>>>> have been) occultists of some sort and were writers in the first
>>>> two-thirds of the 19^th century before the Golden Dawn was
>>>> established. So far I have Blake (questionable, but Yeats claims it,
>>>> so it should be looked at), Dante Gabrielle Rosetti , and
>>>> Bulwer-Lytton. Does anybody out there have any thoughts on others I
>>>> might include in my study? And Leigh Blackmore, if you are out
>>>> there, your work is invaluable. I agree with you that Bram Stoker is
>>>> not among the group. I’m asking about writers who would consciously
>>>> be reading about occultism and maybe practicing it. The Golden Dawn
>>>> didn’t exist yet, so it is not the thing. Thanks so much for taking
>>>> the time to read this query, and thanks in advance for any thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> In gratitude for this list and all the awesome scholars on it who
>>>> allow me not to be working in a vacuum,
>>>>
>>>> Susan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Susan Johnston Graf, Ph.D.
>>>>
>>>> Associate Professor of English
>>>>
>>>> Penn State Mont Alto,
>>>>
>>>> Mont Alto, PA 17237
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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