Not Tooting Launceston. Pat.
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On 13/06/2014, at 4:30 PM, Patrick McManus wrote:
> Bill What were the Romans doing in Tasmania? P perplexed
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> Behalf Of Bill Wootton
> Sent: 13 June 2014 05:06
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> Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!"
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> So Tooting means Roman, L? I did wonder. We have Launceston in northern
> Tasmania.
>
> B
>
> On 12/06/2014, at 7:53 PM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>
>> Do.
>> It's "always" been there. (They used to think the Romans founded
>> London but keep finding quite large structures from way back. TG is on
>> a Roman road and that, it's said, is what Tooting means via a lost
>> item of the a-s vocab. Graveney is a Norman family name, and the
>> Normans still run the country. There's a Graveney near Faversham in
>> Kent (a one time major port)... that I can only explain by reference
>> to the creation of myself and a friend in yoof, the Royal Society of
>> Transportation of Towns, which builds duplicates nationally and
> internationally as part of job creation.
>> There's a Streatham, where I used to live, next to TG, somewhere in
>> East Anglia I believe + of course London Ontario and Launcester in
>> your own sunburnt country etc et cetera
>>
>> L
>>
>>
>> On 12 June 2014 07:27, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>>> I'll add Tooting Graveney to Wandle as another t'riffic name. L, P.
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> On 12/06/2014, at 1:19 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>>>
>>>> He was, the sad creature. The Graveney is a tributary of the Wandle
>>>> and
>>> you
>>>> could see it about to go underground a mile or so south of my
>>>> parents
>>> house
>>>> in Tooting Graveney. That house had a coal cellar. In the winter it
>>>> was inches deep in water. There were something like 40 houses along
>>>> one side
>>> of
>>>> our road where there had been 4 in the days that Johnson went
>>>> sniffing after the scent of Mrs Thrale - you could spit at Thrale Rd
>>>> from where I was teenaged, and sometimes I did. Presumably the
>>>> forces of Edwardian capitalism decided there was no need to allow a
>>>> space to the ghost of a river.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, dear boy, do show respect to our natural powers. Let's live
>>>> by British values.
>>>>
>>>> pip pip
>>>>
>>>> L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11 June 2014 16:13, Patrick McManus
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> William Morris was the man picked the Wandle and inspired -News
> From
>>>>> Nowhere
>>>>> P
>>>>> Ps sorry L to offend your mighty river
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Poetryetc: poetry and poetics
>>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Lawrence Upton
>>>>> Sent: 11 June 2014 12:41
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: pat snap 630 !"!"!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Pat as a citizen once of and now near the Wandle I take issue with
>>>>> your description of its being piddling. Too much re and
>>>>> misdirection; but in
>>> its
>>>>> unaltered state it was a substantial Thames tributary and a major
>>> centre of
>>>>> early industrialisation
>>>>>
>>>>> L
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11 June 2014 12:35, Bill Wootton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Pat, I laughed. Like the local content too. But you might consider
>>>>>> butting out one of your buts. Two buts throws readers out. Line 4
>>>>>> could simply begin, 'It was' for instance without disarming your flow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Jun 2014, at 6:39 pm, Patrick McManus <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RIVER
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not
>>>>>>> criticising
>>>>>>> she said
>>>>>>> but it was
>>>>>>> all very well
>>>>>>> naming our son
>>>>>>> Moses
>>>>>>> but isn't it
>>>>>>> a bit much
>>>>>>> to make a cradle
>>>>>>> to tar it
>>>>>>> to float it
>>>>>>> in the river
>>>>>>> after all
>>>>>>> the Wandle
>>>>>>> is hardly
>>>>>>> the Nile
>>>>>>> and as far
>>>>>>> as I know
>>>>>>> there are no
>>>>>>> Pharaoh's Daughters
>>>>>>> living in
>>>>>>> Earlsfield
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pmcmanus
>>>>>>> r573
>>>>>>> some here will know this but
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> River Wandle is a local piddling River Earlsfied -is a
>>>>>>> sub-suburbia nearby This inspired by partner suddenly taking up a
>>>>>>> writing course -subject
>>>>>> 'River
>>>>>>> Wandle'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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