I'd just like to say,
I like this, a lot:
>So instead of operating in the suburbs, how could the list propose
that it is in fact the
>art world that is suburban - with its gated community paywalls,
whitecube picket fences,
>and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
!
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> From: marc garrett <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Wednesday, 18 June 2014, 16:41
>Subject: Re: [NEW-MEDIA-CURATING] article which mis-understands internet art, again?
>
>
>Hi Nicholas & all,
>
>>So instead of operating in the suburbs, how could the list propose
>that it is in fact the
>>art world that is suburban - with its gated community paywalls,
>whitecube picket fences,
>>and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
>
>I agree with the above & Sarah’s post on the matter works for me.
>
>Anyway — I’m too busy at the moment with our ‘provincial’ exhibition. A
>collaboration with The Arts Catalyst “SEFT-1 Abandoned Railways
>Exploration Probe: Modern Ruins 1:220 — Ivan Puig and Andrés Padilla
>Domene” http://go.shr.lc/1jy7AJo
>
>It was featured in the Guardian last week by Jonathan jones ‘The
>ruin-hunters who drove a car down Mexico's forgotten railways’
>http://go.shr.lc/1qwbV4K
>
>And will be featured on the BBC news on Friday…
>
>Oh wait! I get it, it’s seen as ‘provincial’ because the work
>successfully reaches people, beyond their art establishment silos. Of
>course ;-)
>
>bye for now.
>
>marc
>
>
>> Sarah + all:
>>
>> I actually think that there's some stuff worth engaging in this...
>>
>> I haven't read Joanne's book, so I can't speak to the ways in which this
>> piece fails as a review, but this closing statement definitely sent a
>> shiver down my browser:
>>
>> "The problem with the book, as with internet art, is that no one has
>> recognised the aesthetic problems of provincial conversation. Work by
>> artists who turn inward to have hushed talks with a small coterie about
>> local problems will have little effect on culture at large. McLuhan’s
>> global village may have its merits, but the cultural celebration of
>> marginalism in art is not one of them."
>>
>> The reactionary in me would outright disagree with this, but I did have a
>> moment of thinking bout who does address the aesthetic problems of the
>> "provincial conversation" of internet art. So maybe as a way of thinking
>> about outright disagreeing with Pac Pobric, the list might suggest some
>> compelling counters?
>>
>> To that end, the metric of cultural relevance as proposed in this article
>> is squarely situated in archaic models of art
>presentation/distribution (I
>> think that a lot of us can agree on that). So instead of operating in the
>> suburbs, how could the list propose that it is in fact the art world that
>> is suburban - with its gated community paywalls, whitecube picket fences,
>> and McMansions Art Centers - instead of the other way around.
>>
>> very best
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Kelani Nichole <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> He is based in Brooklyn, no worries tho y'all I already invited him
>to our
>>> next opening at TRANSFER – Claudia Maté on July 12 :D
>>>
>>>
>>> Bests,
>>> Kelani Nichole
>>>
>>> Curatorial Director, TRANSFER
>>> http://transfer.gallery
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 9:49 AM, marc garrett <
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow!
>>>>
>>>> Where do they find these people?
>>>>
>>>> marc
>>>>
>>>> Hi CRUMBs
>>>>> thought you might be interested to read this article about
>internet art,
>>>>> which is a thin review of the book Art and the Internet, Joanne McNeil
>>> et
>>>>> al, Black Dog Publishing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Internet-art-fails-to-click/32983
>>>>>
>>>>> It suggests that internet art takes place in the suburbs, that it is
>>>>> provincial.
>>>>> Use it as yet another rallying cry to improve the art history of this
>>>>> field of practice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ===
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr. Sarah Cook
>>>>> Reader / Dundee Fellow
>>>>> Duncan of Jordanstone College of Art and Design
>>>>> University of Dundee
>>>>> 13 Perth Road DD1 4HT
>>>>>
>>>>> phone: 01382 385247
>>>>> email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The University of Dundee is a registered Scottish Charity, No:
>SC015096
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> --->
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>>>>
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>>>>
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>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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>--->
>
>A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood -
>proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;)
>
>Other reviews,articles,interviews
>http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php
>
>Furtherfield – online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing,
>discussing and learning about experimental practices at the
>intersections of art, technology and social change.
>http://www.furtherfield.org
>
>Furtherfield Gallery – Finsbury Park (London).
>http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery
>
>Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community.
>http://www.netbehaviour.org
>
>http://identi.ca/furtherfield
>http://twitter.com/furtherfield
>
>
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