On 23 May 2014 14:00, Henry Nebrensky <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014, Jensen, Jens (STFC,RAL,SC) wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/2014 11:01, Sam Skipsey wrote:
>>>
>>> On 23 May 2014 10:47, Adam Huffman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I feel obliged to mention that these ideas have been around in other
>>>> disciplines (e.g. Life Sciences, where I was for 12 years before
>>>> coming to Imperial) for a long time...
>>>>
>>>> E.G. http://f1000research.com/about plus many others
>>>>
>>> And in physics too (my old discipline of Condensed Matter physics, for
>>> example, has cited software going back at least a decade).
>>
>>
>> Which is great!
>>
>> Now for an exercise, then. Find some software that was used then for a
>> publication. Your own, perhaps.
>>
>> The corollary is that also the software needs to be preserved,
>> discovered, and metadataed enough to be runnable or at least
>> understandable.
>
>
> My underwater holography work used the NetPBM utils built for Windows NT
> 3.11 (NOT a typo)
> as part of the data conversion chain. I wonder if that still works on my
> Windows 7 netbook?
>
> 21/10/1994 18:53 72,704 djpeg.exe
> 21/10/1994 18:41 223,744 pnmtotiff.exe
>
> D:\TEMP\NetPBM>djpeg.exe ..\STITCHTMP\MICEhall497LO.JPG | pnmtotiff.exe >
> MICEhall497LO.TIF
> pnmtotiff.exe: computing colormap...
> pnmtotiff.exe: Too many colors - proceeding to write a 24-bit RGB file.
> pnmtotiff.exe: If you want an 8-bit palette file, try doing a 'ppmquant
> 256'.
> Standard Output: 0: Bad value for "RowsPerStrip".
>
> {looks at resulting image}
>
> Yes.
>
> Certainly, software is a valid research output as far as the REF goes
> (though given the supporting paperwork requested, writing a paper would be
> less work! Though maybe that's the point...)
>
I remember a presentation from an All-Hands meeting some time back
where the presenter was arguing the converse position (that papers
should be published with embedded algorithms, making use of the
extensive programmable functionality of Adobe PDFs at the time). That
was also from a "open and archive-friendly science" perspective - the
idea being that a paper is useless without a context for the code
used.
Sam
> Thanks
>
> Henry
>
>
>> In my previous job (at RHUL) I used to use software from netlib
>> (http://www.netlib.org/liblist.html) which I think I can still find
>> again (I'll need to consult my notes to remember what I used.) Also, I
>> used pvm, which is still around -
>> http://www.csm.ornl.gov/pvm/pvm_home.html, and matlab. So it's all
>> there. Except of course for the *actual* code that was used to run the
>> search I was doing, which I still have, but it isn't published, but it
>> wasn't that rocketsciencey, mostly a constrained multidimensional search.
>>
>> Cheers
>> -j
>
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