From the earliest days the PDB accepted structure factor
files along with coordinate files. If you check the early
newsletters you will see that, unfortunately, most authors
did not deposit structure factor files. Eventually, as we
all know, deposition of structure factors became mandatory.
There were relatively few requests in the early years for structure
factors. In fact the most common requests were from depositors
who had lost their original data and had had the foresight
to deposit it.
Frances Bernstein
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On Wed, 14 May 2014, Tim Gruene wrote:
> Hi James,
>
> I am surprised the PDB contained any data at all at that time - wouldn't
> people only submit their models but not the data at that time? ;-)
>
> 249GB and even the compressed 249GB data are not a 'tiny' space, as you
> actually point out. At 'those days' I had three operating systems
> installed on my 400MB disk. Rather we are used to larger disks nowadays,
> but most of the time that's only filled with noise. I just took an
> arbitrary data set covering 21GB disk space, reduced to 8.6MB hkl-data -
> that's only 0.04% non-noise ;-)
>
> Best,
> Tim
>
> On 05/14/2014 05:18 PM, James Holton wrote:
>>
>> I think 249 GB is uncompressed. My local copy of the PDB only takes up 20 GB,
>> or one Blu-Ray.
>>
>> I can remember a time when the whole of the PDB fit onto a single CD-ROM. The
>> PDB booth at the ACA meeting would hand them out for free! That was impressive
>> to me because CD-R disks were really expensive (to an undergraduate like me
>> anyway), and I had to figure out how to do "multi-session" writes so I could
>> back up my whole hard drive 2 or 3 times before I filled one up. And, of
>> course, I had to take out my hard drive and go over to that really wealthy lab
>> that had a "CD writer" to do that. Each write took about an hour, and didn't
>> always work. Ah, those were the days.
>>
>> But yes, it is impressive how so much effort by so many people over so many
>> years can be compressed into such a tiny space. "Is it not a strange fate that
>> we should suffer so much fear and doubt for so small a thing?"
>>
>> -James Holton
>> MAD Scientist
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/2014 7:15 AM, MARTYN SYMMONS wrote:
>>> I reckon it's two box sets of 25 discs each - am I calculating that wrong?
>>> Maybe room for a 'making of' feature....
>>>
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* Jon Agirre <[log in to unmask]>
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 May 2014, 14:28
>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone
>>>
>>> 249GB? That's a whole lot of DVDs!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2014 14:08, MARTYN SYMMONS <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Although the line boasting that the PDB adds up to 'more than 249 GBbytes
>>> (sic) of storage' was obviously written by someone from a pre i-tunes
>>> generation....
>>> http://www.wwpdb.org/news/news_2014.html#13-May-2014
>>> ;)
>>>
>>> -M.
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* mesters <[log in to unmask]
>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>> *To:* [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 14 May 2014, 13:41
>>> *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone
>>>
>>> Amazing, great!
>>>
>>> And, which structure ended up as number 100.000?
>>>
>>> - J. -
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.05.14 10:42, schrieb battle:
>>>> The Worldwide Protein Data Bank (wwPDB) organization is proud to announce
>>>> that the Protein Data Bank archive now contains more than 100,000 entries.
>>>>
>>>> Established in 1971, this central, public archive of
>>>> experimentally-determined protein and nucleic acid structures has reached
>>>> a critical milestone thanks to the efforts of structural biologists
>>>> throughout the world.
>>>>
>>>> Read the full story at:
>>>> http://www.wwpdb.org/news/news_2014.html#13-May-2014
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gary Battle
>>>> on behalf on the wwPDB
>>>
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