Hi all;
Jurgen raises a vital point. Do we want to be part of a "group" that has "no identity" , no "vision", and could be characterised as an "arbitrary mess"?
On thinking about this, I suggest that for some of the motivation I have for being involved in Aacorn, that is exactly what I do want. I don't know enough about the things something in me wants to learn. to be able to be more definite but loose structure, even a "mess" offers some prospects of a future that is interesting, even fun, and open to new experience. Maybe I'll grow up some day.
David
On Tue, 13 May 2014 13:21:01 +0200, Jürgen Bergmann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I set the facebook-group to "secret" - because option 3 (Nobody except
> members of the group - can see who is in the group or what they post.):
> Option 1=5, Option 2=3, Option 3=12. (I counted also those, who are not on
> Facebook and also those who confounded communication with visibility.)
> This vote signifies: The group is not existent beyond itself !
> That is very significant, isn't it ?
>
> The degree of misunderstanding and confused communication is also
> significant: there is no identity.
> There is no shared or common understanding of the existence of that group.
> It's without vision: a arbitrary mess.
> Or Š
>
> Best
> Jürgen
>
>
> Von: Lloyd Williams <[log in to unmask]>
> Antworten an: Lloyd Williams <[log in to unmask]>
> Datum: Montag, 5. Mai 2014 22:42
> An: AACORN <[log in to unmask]>
> Betreff: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN
> LIST!
>
> I guess I make it at least 3
>
> Lloyd Williams. NZ
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung tablet
>
> Anne-Laure Fayard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Pedro,
>
> just to reassure you:
> You're not the only one not on Facebook. We're at least two :-)
>
> al
> On May 4, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Pedro D. Perez wrote:
>
> > Dear Jürgen, Chris, and all...
> > So that's why there are so few emails!!!!!
> > Everybody (except me?) is on Facebook!
> > Pedro
> > ps. Monika, going through "Occupy Management"... Wow!
> >
> > From: Aesthetics, Creativity, and Organisations Research Network
> > <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jürgen Bergmann <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:37 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN
> > LIST!
> >
> > Hi Chris, dear AACORNERS,
> > concerning our facebook-site: https://www.facebook.com/groups/aacorn/
> > Yes, Roman is one of the administrators with Konstantin Adamopolous and me.
> > When I had the "go" from the network to create the AACRON group on facebook,
> > I asked who will be administrator with me: Roman and Konstantin agreed.
> >
> > Actually we are 72 members.
> > The AACORN facebook-group is very interesting in my point of view because
> > I can
> > perceive the AACORNERS who are members of the group in a larger context, also
> > out of the professional box.
> >
> > The question of the group setting depends on what we want.
> > 1. If the group setting is open, everybody can see who is member of the group
> > and what the members post.
> > 2. If the group setting is closed, everybody can see who is member of the
> > group but only members can see the posts.
> > 3. If the group setting is secret, only members can see who is member and the
> > posts. (This excludes also students interested in our topic!)
> >
> > Now there is that problem of administration,
> > because in setting 1. and 2. everybody can also ask to become member of the
> > group.
> > But if someone want to become member, an administrators must confirm the
> > membership.
> > That means, that an administrator must verify that the person who asked to
> > join the facebook-group
> > is also member of AACORN.
> > We the administrators - do that be verifying if the name of the person is on
> > the list which Hilde sends around every three month.
> > This is very boring !!! Because on several days there are up to 10 persons
> > asking to become member of the group.
> > (And you can be sure, these people are not at all in the profile of our group,
> > the most of them want only advertise.)
> >
> > If the majority of the AACORNERS who are actually member of the facebook-group
> > want that the group-setting is "open"
> > we will change the proceeding so that the administrators are not obliged to do
> > the boring job.
> > For example: Every AACORN-member who will become member of the group writes
> > directly to one of the three administrators.
> > (This will be also the case for the "closed" setting.)
> > If not, the setting will be "secret".
> >
> > Please give your vote, by answering: 1, 2 or 3.
> > (Until the end of the week.)
> >
> > Best Jürgen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Von: Chris Poulson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Antworten an: Chris Poulson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Datum: Sonntag, 4. Mai 2014 03:07
> > An: AACORN <[log in to unmask]>
> > Betreff: Re: AACORN members at 17 March 2014 --- ACCESS TO FACEBOOK AACORN
> > LIST!
> >
> > Hello fellow AACORNS
> >
> > Who is Roman Batko and how is it that he is changing access to the list?
> > Facebook version that is!
> >
> > Chris Poulson
> > (A very old ACORN)
> >
> > On Mar 17, 2014, at 4:35 AM, Hilde Bollen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear AACORNers
> >>
> >> Please find below the email list of AACORN members to date.
> >>
> >> Spring greetings from Copenhagen!
> >>
> >> Hilde
> >> _______________________________________________________
> >> Hilde Bollen //Programme Coordinator LAICS Master
> >> Aarhus University (Emdrup Campus - Copenhagen)
> >> T. +45 871 51817, E. [log in to unmask]
> >> LAICS Master in Leadership and Innovation - www.laics.net
> >> <http://www.laics.net>
> >> _______________________________________________________
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
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