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Re: UK matched guise samples

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Dave Sayers <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:00:26 +0000

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Thanks for the feedback Paul! I just gave these recordings a road test with my second 
year sociolinguistic group. It was the first lecture so they hadn't met me and didn't 
twig it was all the same person :)

My students are mostly from the Sheffield area, or further north, so MLE threw them a 
bit, but still the cockney/RP split produced the sorts of evaluations for education, 
trustworthiness etc. that you'd expect (I asked them to do ratings out of 10 -- very 
run-of-the-mill MGT stuff).

I'd really love to improve these along the lines you suggest, but unfortunately I 
don't think I'll have time. Still, but let this be a clarion call for others to make 
their own! If anything, my failed search so far has demonstrated a real need for more 
of these.

Dave

--
Dr. Dave Sayers
Senior Lecturer, Dept Humanities, Sheffield Hallam University, UK
Honorary Research Fellow, Arts & Humanities, Swansea University, UK
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http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers



On 27/01/2014 22:43, Paul Kerswill wrote:
> Pretty good effort Dave! The MLE is recognisable (that's an achievement!), but some
> details are wrong. GOOSE needs to be very front, START needs to be fully back. KIT is
> too raised. But you've got FLEECE, GOAT and FACE about right. MOUTH in MLE has a lot
> of variation, from the RP pronunciation you've got here, through an open central
> monophthong, to a fully back closing diphthong. LETTER tends to be low-back. STRUT is
> more than you've got it. And more glottal stops are needed. You've got a lack of
> linking/intrusive r, and the glottal onsets of syllable-initial vowels. Can you
> manage a slightly more staccato rhythm?
>
> What do others think?
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 27 January 2014 22:12, Dave Sayers <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>
>     As has now been kindly pointed out, in my addled tiredness I neglected to mention
>     which accents I was plumping for in my recordings. (That is mentioned in the
>     readme.txt file in the zip collection, but anyway...) It was RP, cockney, and an
>     approximation of Multicultural London English -- see the readme.txt file for a
>     mealy-mouthed excuse about the accuracy of the last one.
>
>
>     Dave
>
>     --
>     Dr. Dave Sayers
>     Senior Lecturer, Dept Humanities, Sheffield Hallam University, UK
>     Honorary Research Fellow, Arts & Humanities, Swansea University, UK
>     [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>     http://swansea.academia.edu/__DaveSayers <http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers>
>
>
>
>     On 27/01/2014 21:38, Dave Sayers wrote:
>
>         Ok... nobody seems to have any matched guise recordings of British English
>         dialects
>         available. So I realised that, once again, I've gone and volunteered myself
>         to make
>         something. I spent the better part of today putting this together, and I'd
>         like to
>         thank Robert Lawson (Birmingham City University) for checking over some 'early
>         drafts', as it were. Any remaining mistakes, as they say, are mine... all mine.
>
>         I put all the audio files together in a zip file, in three different formats:
>         MP3,
>         OGG, and WAV. I wanted to upload the zip file to my academia.edu
>         <http://academia.edu> page, but
>         academia.edu <http://academia.edu> doesn't allow zip files, only Word
>         documents and PDFs, so I resorted to
>         a slightly ugly workaround: I just changed the '.zip' file extension to
>         '.doc', which
>         seemed to convince academia.edu <http://academia.edu> to let me upload it.
>         So, when you download it, just
>         change the '.doc' on the end back to '.zip' and then unzip it as normal.
>
>         Without further ado then, here's my stab at a three-way matched guise test:
>
>         https://swansea.academia.edu/__DaveSayers/Teaching-Documents
>         <https://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers/Teaching-Documents>
>
>         As the README.txt file in the zip says, feel free to use and distribute these
>         with
>         due credit. Hopefully they'll be of some use to folks.
>
>         And if Rob and I were both wrong and my attempts were actually completely
>         rubbish,
>         then hopefully it'll at least spur someone to do a better job :)
>
>         Dave
>
>         --
>         Dr. Dave Sayers
>         Senior Lecturer, Dept Humanities, Sheffield Hallam University, UK
>         Honorary Research Fellow, Arts & Humanities, Swansea University, UK
>         [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>         http://swansea.academia.edu/__DaveSayers <http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers>
>
>
>
>
>         On 23/01/2014 11:22, Dave Sayers wrote:
>
>             Hello assorted colleagues, peers, friends and strangers,
>
>             I have a humble request. Does anyone have any matched guise recordings
>             involving
>             different British accents (ideally including RP)? I can track down a few
>             American
>             samples (and of course John Baugh's housing discrimination page is especially
>             powerful: http://www.stanford.edu/~__jbaugh/baugh.fft
>             <http://www.stanford.edu/~jbaugh/baugh.fft>), but I'm teaching in the UK, and
>             I'm hoping to tap into students' intuitive understandings of accent
>             inequality. Can
>             anyone help?
>
>             And, if you have samples which are cleared for public access, it would be
>             really good
>             if you could make them publicly accessible on e.g. Dropbox, Google Drive
>             etc., then
>             we can all share.
>
>             To reduce email traffic, please send responses direct to me, then I can
>             send a
>             collated email to the group later.
>
>             Many thanks,
>             Dave
>
>             --
>             Dr. Dave Sayers
>             Senior Lecturer, Dept Humanities, Sheffield Hallam University, UK
>             Honorary Research Fellow, Arts & Humanities, Swansea University, UK
>             [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>             http://swansea.academia.edu/__DaveSayers
>             <http://swansea.academia.edu/DaveSayers>
>
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>
> Paul Kerswill (Prof.)
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> University of York
> Heslington, York YO10 5DD, UK
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