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Re: CIG e-forum on adopting and working with RDA - welcome

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Kate Kluttz <[log in to unmask]>

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Kate Kluttz <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:26:03 +0000

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We have an ... interesting ... implementation of Voyager, so at present we don't have anything like handy little icons that display in the OPAC (generated by the fixed fields), even though this should be possible even without Aquabrowser, I think.  So that's really just us being a bit behind the times--I'm counting on that changing when we migrate.



We also have a lot of "same title in different formats" situations, so not seeing the GMD in the staff module can be frustrating for us on the back end.  But at some point we'll have to live with it.  I'm expecting we'll do some kind of global data change cleanup project in the future to pull out inappropriate GMDs, or possibly replace GMDs with 336/337/338 even in AACR2 records (if there's any proven usefulness to that--I'm sort of expecting this will be done at various institutions, but we'll wait and see!).



Cheers



Kate Kluttz

Acquisitions & Metadata Librarian

University of the Arts London Library Services

020 7514 8586

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www.arts.ac.uk/library











-----Original Message-----

From: C.J. Carty [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

Sent: 13 January 2014 10:20

To: Kate Kluttz

Cc: [log in to unmask]

Subject: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] CIG e-forum on adopting and working with RDA - welcome



That's interesting Kate, as we are a Voyager library but have not been adding GMD to RDA records. This doesn't seem to affect our searching, frontline staff have been quite happy and there has been no impact on users as far as we can tell. We use the Voyager OPAC (which we call our Newton catalogue) but do also have a discovery layer (Aquabrowser) which many users prefer to use and which does not use GMD at all but rather takes information about format from the Leader/006/007, etc.



Celine



On 2014-01-13 10:03, Kate Kluttz wrote:

> We're doing about the same as you with imported records. Our catalogue

> will always be a mixture of RDA and pre-RDA, so AACR2 records will

> continue to be acceptable.

>

> I have to confess we're not doing "pure" RDA for certain things. We

> still need the 245 $h GMD for ebooks and videorecordings, as our local

> system (Voyager) really needs that in order for us to look at a search

> results list either in the OPAC or the staff side and to easily pick

> out alternative formats. This is useful for patrons and also to help

> us choose the correct bib record to link to when placing orders. We're

> possibly migrating to a new system over the next year or so and I'm

> hoping our replacement will offer an improved display that will allow

> us to go back and remove the GMDs we're currently polluting RDA

> records with ;-)

>

> Kate Kluttz

>

> Acquisitions & Metadata Librarian

>

> University of the Arts London Library Services

>

> 020 7514 8586

>

> [log in to unmask]

>

> www.arts.ac.uk/library [1]

>

>  [2] [3] [4] [5]

>

> FROM: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] ON BEHALF OF

> Helen Williams

>  SENT: 13 January 2014 09:59

>  TO: [log in to unmask]

>  SUBJECT: Re: [CIG-E-FORUM] CIG e-forum on adopting and working with

> RDA - welcome

>

> Thanks Katrina,

>

> Yes, we are doing the same with imported records.

>

> If there's an RDA record available, then we would chose that. If

> there's no existing RDA record, but there is a good AACR2 record, then

> we would import that as is instead. We would only upgrade an AACR2

> record to RDA where it would have required substantial editing to make

> it an acceptable AACR2 record anyway.

>

> What are others doing about this?

>

> Helen

>

> FROM: Clifford, Katrina M [mailto:[log in to unmask]]

>  SENT: 13 January 2014 09:55

>  TO: Williams,HK; [log in to unmask]

>  SUBJECT: RE: CIG e-forum on adopting and working with RDA - welcome

>

> Good morning everyone, Katrina Clifford from Kingston University (one

> of the co-moderators). Looking forward to a full 2 days of discussion.

>

>

> We've moved mostly to RDA - we moved on 1st October last year. The

> main exceptions we have are theses which are still AACR2 as they are

> created through an export from our Research Repository and certain

> books in the various Special Collections that are being done using

> DCRM(B). We are though, accepting AACR2 records that are imported as

> AACR2 and not upgrading them

>

> Katrina

>

> Katrina Clifford

>

>  Ext: 62118

>  [log in to unmask]

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> FROM: CIG E-Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]] ON BEHALF OF

> Helen Williams

>  SENT: 13 January 2014 09:45

>  TO: [log in to unmask]

>  SUBJECT: [CIG-E-FORUM] CIG e-forum on adopting and working with RDA -

> welcome

>

> Good morning and welcome to the CIG e-forum on adopting and working

> with RDA. I'll be co-moderating along with Thurstan Young from the

> British Library, and Katrina Clifford from Kingston University and

> we'll be here between 10am and 4pm over the next couple of days. We're

> delighted to have a number of people signed up to the e-forum and are

> looking forward to sharing knowledge, experience and questions as we

> consider the following topics:

>

> Monday morning: Planning and preparation

>

> Monday afternoon: Training

>

> Tuesday morning: Policy

>

> Tuesday afternoon: Productivity/workflows and summary.

>

> This will help give some direction to our discussions but they aren't

> set in stone, so don't feel you can't post something you wanted to

> talk about if you are only around at a particular time of day. If

> you're posting about something new, then please give your subject

> header a relevant title so that those participating can keep track of

> conversations more easily. We'll have a lunchbreak between 12.30 and

> 2, but please feel free to keep posting over this time as well.

>

> On a practical note it might be worth me mentioning at the start of

> the day that messages sometimes take a little while to appear on

> JISCmail lists, so if your message doesn't appear straight away then

> please don't worry or re-send. We're not moderating the list, so it

> will get through.

>

> So, to kick us off for today, please feel free to introduce yourselves

> to the list and let us know where you are up to with your RDA

> implementation or plans. Have you moved to RDA yet, and if so, when?

> If not, do you have a date in mind when you are planning to move to

> RDA? And are there people who aren't planning to move to RDA at all?

>

> Helen

>

> HELEN WILLIAMS

>

> ASSISTANT LIBRARIAN, BIBLIOGRAPHIC SERVICES

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> LSE Library Services

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