I was chatting to someone from ROH the other day about their new responsive
site. As I understand it, the innovative part of the site is that it lets
you continue to browse ROH articles even if you lose connectivity. This was
in a very noisy pub, so I may have misunderstood, though!
Taras
On 20 December 2013 10:11, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks for this list: I look forward to seeing it growing…!
>
> One thought - and in part responding to Andrew’s point while also wanting
> to avoid another web app vs native circular debate (answer: “it depends”) -
> I’d suggest that the focus of “mobile” as an _experience_ rather than as an
> _thing_ tends to make us think harder about what this actually means.
>
> Joy - you may have specific reasons for focusing on “apps” (although then
> you’re in trouble - as Andrew points out - trying to unearth what is a
> native app, what is a web app, whether responsive design counts - and how
> all these things differ..) but in general I think the notion of
> “mobile-ness” is what’s interesting here.
>
> In other words, the fact that the user is looking through a small
> viewport, using gestures, possibly in a different physical environment,
> able to provide location details to us - that sort of stuff - this seems to
> me to be where we’ll uncover some real learning and understanding about how
> to do this well. Andrew and others have already posted some data about what
> mobile-ness does to their user stats, which makes for fascinating reading -
> and it’s that side of stuff IMO that we’ll really learn from.
>
> Also: mobile is not tied to “on the device” - so in-gallery spimes,
> barcodes, locative experiences, Internet Of Things - these are also
> “mobile”. I talked about all of this at a CETIS thing back in 2010. No idea
> what happened to my slides but I did a drawing...
>
> http://blog.variousbits.net/2010/11/09/activate-the-world/
>
> On a mobile-related note, I see the Royal Opera House won some R&D money
> to do some mobile stuff - this went live this week:
>
> http://www.roh.org.uk/news/the-royal-opera-house-website-goes-mobile-ready
>
> I'd be interested to hear from anyone at the ROH about the technical side
> of stuff. On the surface it looks like “yet another responsive website” but
> I suspect to win R&D money it probably needs to be more interesting than
> that! - there’s a link to some geekery (
> http://native.artsdigitalrnd.org.uk/projects/royal-opera-house/) but some
> more detail would be interesting.
>
> cheers
>
> Mike
>
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> On Friday, 20 December 2013 at 08:21, Andrew Lewis wrote:
>
> > Hi Joy,
> >
> > You appear to have our V&A Apps page listed correctly
> > http://www.vam.ac.uk/page/v/apps/ , thanks.
> >
> > In general I'd say the trend is away from apps and towards native web
> > functionality. It is useful to look at digital service development and
> > delivery options as being simply about the experiences you wish to give
> > people and how well you can integrate them overall with all your
> > cultural offers to them. Not simple by any means, but it is helpful to
> > see this more as developing an evolving overall system than a bunch of
> > one-off products. This will make updating your list tricky I suspect :)
> >
> > On this note, you may notice that the first app listed, the V&A
> > Interactive Map is not an app at all. It is a touch-enabled web page
> > designed to be used with the fingers on a tablet for playful exploration
> > of the V&A. Because it is NOT an app, it can re-use constantly updated
> > data from our internal collections and events databases using simple web
> > protocols. It is simply a new extension of the V&A's knowledge and
> > events evolved to give people the visual and touch experience they have
> > come to expect 3 years after the iPad changed the way people access the
> > web.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > _________
> > Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:27:18 +0000
> > From: Joy Hooper <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask])>
> > Subject: Where have all the apps gone?
> >
> > Dear all, over the past few weeks I have been compiling a list of apps
> > developed by UK cultural institutions in a Google doc, which is
> > accessible for all to view. I have included all the relevant apps that
> > have been shared in response to Jo Cutting’s call and added a few more
> > of my own. The document is based around the top most visited
> > institutions in the UK, but I have also included several other examples,
> > particularly from the North West.
> >
> > Here’s the link: bit.ly/1jQF1qA (http://bit.ly/1jQF1qA)
> >
> > Feel free to post any additional apps and I’ll add them to this list.
> > I’m also happy to provide access for those who would like to update
> > this document themselves.
> >
> > This is just a starting point to gage interest, but it is also a
> > serious attempt to find out whether the UK cultural sector has, or is
> > developing a solution that makes it easy to locate, share and repurpose
> > museum apps that are already out there. There is a risk that we reinvent
> > the wheel and worst still, miss opportunities to build on the ideas and
> > innovation of others. Can anyone shed light on this?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joy
> >
> >
> >
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