Hi all
This modern sheep forcing pen/gate looks similar
http://whrea.co.uk/20887/20914.html?*session*id*key*=*session*id*val*
and this article talks about using something similar for deer:
http://www.fao.org/docrep/004/x6529e/x6529e09.htm
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Does the quadrant still move? If so do you know if it has a ratchet mechanism or other facility to make sure it only moves in one direction? Also, is there any evidence that more panels could be slotted in place?
It does look like some kind of livestock sorting/examination gate but the lattice seems too wide for sheep, too frail for cows, and too short/low for deer. I'm sure I've seen these somewhere but can't place the memory! We have some old sorting pens here, but nothing like this (as far as I recall anyway, but who knows what could be out in the Lincolnshire marsh).
I have no idea what thesaurus term you could use!
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Sounds like a Boxing Day walk to me, Alex!
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Festive mornings to you all!
I'm pretty certain that there's modern equivalents on the fences of some fields near my house, if not the same then very similar looking - those fields have horses in them. That may just be co-incidence as opposed to the turnstiles being specifically for horse movement , though...
Cheers!
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nash, Aisling (BEC, Archive and Archaeology)
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After some discussion with colleagues, we're of the opinion that it is related to livestock movement such as sheep as well. I wouldn't want to take a horse through there due to the small space and the possibility of the segment being aligned incorrectly. And why would you when there is an adjacent gate?
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I've seen circular pens with a gate either side of a fence used for moving sheep before. It was to allow the farmer to get the right sheep in the pen and then let those sheep into the next field, keeping the ones he didn't want to let out in the first field. I've never seen one with a rotating quadrant though.
Regards,
Emma
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
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Anyone seen one of these before? It's a gate in a C19 deerpark fence and appears to be a sort of turnstile/kissing gate for horses. It's hard to photograph but it's a circular fence with a rotating quadrant within and two entrances/exits adjacent to the fenceline. If it were set correctly you could probably ride a horse in and push the segment round until you could exit. If the segment were in the wrong place, you couldn't and might as well use the 'normal' gate adjacent. Any ideas, any thesaurus terms, anyone still there?
Merry Christmas.
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