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Re: MTF file

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Sjors Scheres <[log in to unmask]>

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Sjors Scheres <[log in to unmask]>

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Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:49:56 +0000

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Hi Ludo,

This seems to be a hardware issue. It's strange that 3D goes well: 
usually that takes more of your hardware... How many 2D classes are you 
trying to refine? Using more threads and only one mpi process per node 
may help. I would NOT use --dont_combine_weights_via_disc in your case. 
If you MPI installation does not like large messages, you actually do 
want to write data to disc for exchange with other nodes.

Anyway, did your binned reconstruction's resolution approach the Nyquist 
frequency of the binned data? If not, don't bother unbinning your data. 
Relion does a good job at interpolation until ~95% of Nyquist. So 
unbinning only makes sense if your binned reconstruction's resolution is 
close to 2x the binned pixel size. Otherwise, it is not worth your time.

HTH,
S

PS: I CC your message to the CCP-EM mailing list. Please ask future 
questions there.




On 12/13/2013 11:20 AM, Ludovic Renault wrote:
> Hi Sjors,
>
> I have a question.
> I processed my binned data on our cluster without much problem.
> Now I was trying to process the unbinned data and the 2d classification
> job crashes at the end of the first iteration.
> Always something like:
> PBS: job killed: node 5 (node102) requested job terminate, 'EOF'
> (code 1099) - received
> SISTER_EOF attempting to communicate with sister MOM's
> mpirun: killing job...
>
> Our cluster's admin says it's I/O error and that the cluster wasn't design
> for large MPI jobs.
> I tried to increase threads number up to 4, and the dont_write_on_disc
> option but it still crashes.
> Surprsingly, I started a 3d refinement on the unbinned data just to try
> and it seems to work fine (requires less Memory I see).
> Would you have any suggestion on how to proceed?
> It's really annoying as the binned data processing worked so well and we
> have a really nice 3d map. We just want to get the best possible
> resolution now.
> Thanks so much for developping RELION is a really great software. I can't
> wait for 1.3 and an integrated gui.
> Best,
> Ludo
>
>
>
> On 12/11/2013 16:36, "Sjors Scheres" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Great! Thanks a lot. The curve are actually rather similar. I might post
>> these on the relion Wiki.
>> S
>>
>> On 11/12/2013 04:25 PM, Ludovic Renault wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Rishi from NeCen got back to me in the end.
>>> I attach the file in case it's any different than yours.
>>> Ludo
>>>
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