Sue,
The problem that I would have with that option is that our executive are very reluctant to accept reports on single issue or day-to-day maters, which is how this would be viewed, especially on something that could be considered to be a "policy". Conversely putting requirements into something with a wider remit like our draft heritage strategy or the new Local Plan is comparatively easy. It will all depend on the democratic structure of each particular council as they each have their idiosyncrasies, and my wording could be adapted to allow each HER to easily meet the basic requirement no mater how their unitary/districts run.
But I think you're right that the method is not really the issue and that the important thing is to get the actual concept/aim of the benchmark right.
Hugh
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Sent: 07 November 2013 15:42
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Subject: Re: B&A2013 - How do we measure ourselves against the Benchmarks
Surely the basic benchmark is just to getting the HER adopted by resolution of the council (any council that uses the record for planning purposes) which can be done with a straight forward report to the executive. Noting the definition of a site of archaeological interest in the GPDO is one being within a site registered in any record adopted by resolution and known as the County Sites and Monuments Record. Of course the wording in the GPDO is out of date!
This does not have to be done in the context of any other kind of plan or document so not dependent on anything or anyone else. Mention in the context of a development plan or any other kind of planning document or heritage strategy produced by any tier of local government for whatever purpose is desirable maybe but not strictly necessary. I would hope most HERs will have therefore achieved the basic benchmark anyway? One less to worry about. Things need to be simplified and streamlined at the moment.
Sue
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Sarah,
I think that tightening up the text, ditching some, adding others and perhaps splitting some benchmarks off into a separate section (perhaps aimed at "County" level teams?) would deal with it nicely. For example 4.1 is currently:
i. Resolution of governing body to adopt the Record formally, in accordance with the 'Benchmark' Scheme.
ii. Where the governing body is not the local planning authority (lpa), or acts on behalf of one or more local authorities, formal recognition of the Record is desirable from the relevant lpas. This might, for example, be incorporated in service level agreements.
I would suggest that something similar to the following would be an appropriate alternative:
a. A formal statement within a Local Plan (or equivalent) committing the appropriate Local Planning Authority(s) to maintain and enhance the Historic Environment Record.
b. Formal adoption of the Historic Environment Record, and a commitment to maintain and enhance the record in line with national and local frameworks and strategies, through the publication of a Supplementary Planning Document (or equivalent) which has been through public consultation. Adoption should be at Cabinet level or above in each local authority that the record covers.
I would think that most of us have reached level "a" but would like to get to "b" if we had the backing and resources. The documents needed for "b" could include optimum and minimum staffing levels, required resources, forward plans etc set out in a strategy or similar.
Hugh
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of MacLean, Sarah
Sent: 07 November 2013 13:56
To: Winfield, Hugh
Subject: Re: B&A2013 - How do we measure ourselves against the Benchmarks
Dear all,
Interpretation of the text is a very valid point.
Thinking about Benchmarks in general, rather than specifically about the current draft Benchmarks, how would you propose resolving this issue? Is it about the wording of the benchmarks? Is it about how they are measured against? Is it about having Benchmarks at all? - case studies have been suggested as an alternative. Or could is it something else entirely?
all the best
Sarah
Sarah MacLean
Heritage Information Partnerships Supervisor
English Heritage
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Sent: 05 November 2013 11:01
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Subject: Re: B&A2013 - How do we measure ourselves against the Benchmarks
I think Hugh's compliance list sums up neatly the problem with the current benchmarks - the answer to most is 'it depends what you mean by ...'
Chris Webster
Historic Environment Record
Somerset County Council
Somerset Heritage Centre
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Sent: 04 November 2013 15:39
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I didn't realise that I came across so negatively until I read Sarah's summaries! Apologies to all, I will try to be more positive and upbeat....
After a few minutes thought, here is the Level one compliance breakdown for North East Lincs:
1.1 - Mostly (on web page, will probably fill in the blanks at next update, it used to be up there but I guess I got carried away during a previous rewrite)
1.2 - Mostly (see above)
1.3 - No (planning application consultations recorded, and pre-apps and utilities, but not other consultations/users, partly so I don't have to think too hard about the DPA but also to save time)
1.4 - No (unlikely to be achievable)
2.1 - No (but a statement could easily be put on the web page)
2.2 - Yes (I think)
2.3 - Yes
3.1 - No
3.2 - Yes (I think, if I'm right in assuming that by using HBSMR you are effectively forced to be MIDAS compliant by the structure of the database - assuming it is used correctly)
3.3 - Don't know
3.4 - No (pointless given small size of reference collection)
3.5 - Probably (would need to ask IT)
3.6 - No
3.7 - No (I don't really have a backlog, and all records were recast between 2005 and 2010, so I'm mostly left with enhancements some of which have forward plans)
3.8 - No (unless writing "Panic" in big red letters on a page of A4 counts)
4.1 - Yes (record is specified in Council's contract with Balfour Beatty and is to be included as an evidence base for the local plan)
4.2 - Yes (sort of, the Council still owns the HER but the contract states that it is to be administered by Balfour Beatty Workplace)
4.3 - No (who would adopt them? who is meant to adopt them? Do they get a cuddly toy?)
4.4 - No (although the Conservation Officer and myself have had a draft "Strategy" for a couple of years)
4.5 - No (only 0.8 FTE, although I'm not sure which 20% of me isn't being employed)
4.6 - No (pointless as only 1 member of staff, it wouldn't be so much of a tree as a stump or maybe a rock)
4.7 - Yes
4.8 - No
So a grand total of 9/23 when I get around to re-writing my web pages!
Hugh Winfield | Archaeologist |
North East Lincolnshire Regeneration Partnership | Origin 1, Europarc, Grimsby, DN37 9TZ
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Sent: 04 November 2013 12:25
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Subject: Re: B&A2013 - How do we measure ourselves against the Benchmarks
Hi all,
>Mike Shaw queried whether anyone currently meets Level 1 or Level 2 Benchmarks. Can anyone
>respond to this?
A comprehensive no to this – not even close to stage 1! ☹
Helen Wells
Historic Environment Record Officer
Leicestershire County Council
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