On 18/11/2013 16:42, Wahid Bhimji wrote:
> David
>
> Thanks for this.
> Firstly Borut told me that he heard in a meeting (from Andy Lankford) that Dell LHC deals were back on.
DELL told me this was off just two weeks ago. He made quite a big point
about it actually.
cheers
alessandra
> I emailed Andy to get more details but have not heard back. Did you hear something along those lines ?
>
> Otherwise for storage the description below is in line with what I was expecting but:
>
> 1) Many sites have previously prefered to just have the loaded server nodes (prev R510s) with no expansion arrays. So perhaps there should be an option to have that configuration.
> (at Edinburgh we prefer the option with the arrays though)
> 2) If one does have the arrays, then one also needs RAID cards which are worth specifying (prev PERC H800s). They are somewhat expensive so the no array option should also drop those.
> 3) 64G RAM is quite a lot - but maybe it doesn't really change the cost.
> 4) Disk options: just looking at the dell normal prices - 3TB sata is listed at 386 while 4 TB NL sas is 605. which is quite a lot more. Anyway we maybe need to double check which offers the best value.
> 5) For us: Remote management needs to be the top idrac (enterprise I think) as thats the only one with a remote console.
> 6) Also warranty can be expensive and ought to be specified e.g. 4 yr pro support.
>
> Think thats it.
>
> Wahid
>
> On 18 Nov 2013, at 15:20, David Colling <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> I have been chatting with Dell regarding our up coming hardware
>> purchase. They have said that while they are already offering us good
>> prices if GridPP T2 sites were to agree on a limited number of
>> configurations they could offer us all EVEN BETTER prices. Obviously
>> this is would not lock anybody in to buying from Dell as each purchasing
>> department has its own rules that must be obeyed. However, I thought it
>> worth asking if this was possible for all our potential mutual benefit.
>> If it isn't then that is fine. To start with I asked Adam and Simon to
>> come up with their basic specs. These were:
>>
>> Storage 'brick'
>> ---------------
>>
>> 1 x Server node
>> 2 x 4-core CPUs
>> 64GB RAM
>> 2 x OS disks (SAS)
>> 12 x 4TB data disks (NL SAS)
>> 10Gb NIC (SFP+)
>> Remote management
>>
>> 2 x Expansion arrays
>> 12 x 4TB (NL SAS)
>>
>> Compute
>> -------
>>
>> 2 x 8-core CPUs
>> 128GB RAM
>> 2 x OS disks (SATA)
>> Remote management
>>
>>
>> What do others think?
>>
>> Best,
>> david
>>
>
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