Surely what's important is why (etc.) something is published, not the technology involved?
To emphasize Ian's point, a good number of supposedly transient sites aren't really: they're archived by the internet archive (www.archive.org), and other sites including the British Library. This has proven rather useful when hunting down plagiarists, for example.
Dylan Harris
On 24 Nov 2013, at 13:24, ian seed <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> I assume a web editor is reaching a larger audience, and that's why they are less concerned about 'first publication'. Also perhaps because a web magazine is generally less expensive and less effort to run. If I were an editor of a print magazine, I would not be happy at all if I found out it had first appeared on the web. As a web editor, I prefer to take something that has not appeared anywhere in print, but I have made a few exceptions, giving credit (if I know beforehand) to the print place where the poem first appeared.
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> But you're right that many web magazines will eventually disappear as soon as the editor or someone dies or decides to stop paying, while the printed magazine will remain (somewhere at least). Luckily for shadow train, it is being archived by the British library on their server - though that too, of course, is no guarantee of eternal life.
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> So, I don't think there are any strict rules, but I think as a general principle, multiple or duplicate appearances of the same poem at around the same time are a no-no, either web or print. Best to check with the editor if not sure.
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> On Sunday, November 24, 2013 12:05 PM, Peter Riley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Does anybody know the rules (if there are rules) about duplicating
> texts on web and print? If a text is published on-screen does it
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> I.e., is a web mounting actually a "publication"? It seems to be, but
> quite possibly it could disappear at any time without notice when,
> e.g., somebody fails to keep up payments for the domain, and surely
> "publication" entails something more reliably lasting than that.
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> Sorry if this is going over old matter settled long ago.
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