Sean, thanks so much for bringing up Sarai, I'm bcc-ing a few people in
the hopes they can direct this message to those who can tell us about the
Sarai list history and archives.
On 07/10/2013 17:11, "Sean Cubitt" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Fascinating discussions (my first email list was rhizome, which Simon
>Biggs introduced me to around 1994 I think).
>
>Two lists of great significance for the people using them:
>http://listcultures.org/pipermail/fibreculture_listcultures.org/
>- mainly Australian, the archive online only goes back to 2010 but the
>list was much older: perhaps others can add a note on whether the
>archives are stil available for the earlier period. Fibreculture went
>into autodestruct in the mid 2000s, mprphing into a community of blogs
>and a journal
>
>and of course Sarai.net (their server is chuntering this morning so I
>can't check if the archives are still there)
>
>Annick gives us a reminder that even in those early days English was not
>the only language online
>
>sean
>
>
>On 7 Oct 2013, at 08:45, Andreas Broeckmann wrote:
>
>> dear friends,
>>
>> thanks for bringing this up. i'm not sure whether i have anything new
>>to say about the syndicate that we have not already said in the 2001
>>article which sally posted. - being so personally involved from the
>>preparatory conversations in 1995 to the ugly collapse in 2001, i have
>>always found it difficult to gage the more general relevance of the
>>syndicate; but i believe that for many people in the emerging central
>>and east european media and art communities of the 90s, it was an
>>important source of information that provided multiple contact points to
>>each other, and to a wider, international scene. remember also that at
>>the time, for the 50+ core group of the syndicate, the personal
>>encounters during the Syndicate Meetings which took place once or twice
>>a year, possibly had a deeper impact on us that the mailing list could
>>have on its own.
>>
>> there are some other materials on the v2 archive:
>>
>> http://v2.nl/archive/organizations/syndicate?searchterm=syndicate
>>
>> and there are reflexions on the role of the syndicate list in research
>>texts by Geert Lovink (was already mentioned here), Rasa Smite, and
>>Clemens Apprich (forthcoming).
>>
>> unfortunately, the archive of the syndicate list on the v2 servers has
>>been lost and it would be great if we could find a place and help to put
>>it back online. i assume that some people will have more or less
>>complete archives on their back-up disks (zone and vuk were diligent
>>collectors of everything back then). if anybody could offer some
>>concrete, practical help on this, i'd be happy to hear from you.
>>
>> regards,
>> -a
>>
>>
>> Am 06.10.13 14:52, schrieb Sally-Jane Norman:
>>> Agree with Armin. The "human-technical assemblages" Syndicate was made
>>>of were vital. I'm sure Andreas and Inke will be able and well placed
>>>to respond, but maybe the swansong mail they posted on nettime provides
>>>a useful overview in the mean time. It's a long story marked by a deep
>>>ethos and visionary generosity on the part of those who put the effort
>>>into launching and maintaining it, like any that engages deep
>>>inter-personal and collective communication. Hard to do justice with
>>>hindsight. Especially from the perspective of 2013 list-log-blog-surf
>>>culture.
>>>
>>> best
>>> sj
>>>
>>>
>>> <nettime> Rise and Decline of the Syndicate
>>>
>>> To: nettime-l {AT} bbs.thing.net
>>> Subject: <nettime> Rise and Decline of the Syndicate
>>> From: Arns/Broeckmann <inke {AT} snafu.de>
>>> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 15:52:49 +0100
>>> Reply-To: Arns/Broeckmann <inke {AT} snafu.de>
>>
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