I think you may have got the wrong end of the stick from my post! I am anti posh kids whose parents get them through exams because they go to schools where exam preparation is the be all and end all, places like Eton guarantee entrance into the corridors of power, where Crown Woods Comprehensive is full of children who however able are not going to make it in politics.
The exam system and commodification of education and changing it into rote learning . Is also a problem. An ability to take risks and think for yourself seems no longer to be an option in any school in this country.


Karen Upton

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 Roger Gardiner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>From: Geoff Schrecker <[log in to unmask]>
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>I am not aware that we have completed this, so does that mean I don't exist and so don't have to go to work in the morning? I'm down to be duty doc, so it would be noce if I could just stay at home ;)
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>On 27 October 2013 16:05, kupton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>These totally unthought out changes in the nhs generally are there to finally destroy it, this is just one very small part of the chaos caused by a government made up of people who have gone to schools that guarantee exam passes with out any regard to a gain in knowledge to do so. This is the result of allowing people to buy qualifications by their choice of school.
>Either that or they are the most malevolent group of people we have ever had in parliament, and that is going it with what we have had recently.
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>On 27 Oct 2013, at 15:00, Trefor Roscoe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>I’ve retired – and it looks as though the declaration is something new this year: is that the case?
>If it is, how was the information that it was needed disseminated and to whom (senior partner, practice manager, CCG to be forwarded etc)?
>And who is responsible for knowing that this, presumably new, set of data was required, the deadlines for submission and the penalties for non-submision?
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>PHCSG Annual Conference 25.10.13 http://www.phcsg.org/events/annual-conference-and-agm/
>"thinking - independent thinking - is to humans as swimming is to cats: we can do it if we really have to." Mark Earles on Radio 4
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>From: GP-UK [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roger Gardiner
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>but Midge he is totally on the pulse of what's happening, as exampled by this:
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>what the web-site requires in the main is the data that used to be submitted as part of the Organisational section of QOF - so most of it is not 'new' work - just old work without the funding
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>From: Adrian Midgley <[log in to unmask]>
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>Subject: some areas of improvement exist.... [WAS: *** Message From Gary Williams - NHS England ***
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>Your email gives me, I think, none of the things I need to know in order to actually do the thing you want me to do, assuming we have not already - it isn't the sort of thing I'd necessarily recall, certainly at home at the weekend.
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>On the subject heading - you are obviously an excellent chap, but a heading to an email that says something of what it is actually about makes it easier to recognise, find, deal with, and so on. The header called From: in an email already says from whom it is...
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>No contract, no possibility of enforcing them, and if I have already ticked it, I am unlikely to actually bother to find out what they are.
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>Unfortunately, yet again, with another spasm of reorganisation of the NHS administrative bodies, my email address and account has been deleted yet again. SO I can't do that.
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>The Practice has a general admin mailbox, but I can't remember it (it fails my carpark test) and in any case I don't really want to go in to work at the weekend in order to play with email. That only works in the working week, which may be common.
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>Practices have raised concerns that they received my previous reminder email, despite having submitted their declaration. We are using a single distribution list for all users of the Primary Care web interface and therefore all users will receive this email. I accept that this may generate a few unneccesy ils for those who have already submitted their declaration. If you have submitted your declaration, you will have a PDF receipt which was generated on submission, please therefore rest assured that no further action is required, your declaration will have been received.
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