Think we are arriving at a crucial point: designers are not just needed for the material world but there is a great urgency for designing the non-material world.
But designing material things or designing for non-material things is a hell of a difference.
As a designer you can use conventional systems thinking and complex systems thinking. The former is perfect for more closed situations, the second is crucial for designing for living, evolving systems.

And I think this is also a challenge of this list: the majority of the list can deliver splendid work with conventional systems thinking but when working with open, dynamic... human systems, our conventional systems thinking, our thinking in 'solutions' should be at least complemented with thinking in 'evolution', it should be complemented with complex systems thinking.

And indeed you don't spend 6 years at a design school to find sociologists or historians come along and call themselves 'designer'. But this doesn't mean that we should keep all as it is in the non-material world.
This is why Ulla Johansson-Sköldberg, Jill Woodilla and Mehves Çetinkaya in their latest article make a distinction between design thinking and designerly thinking (2013 Design Thinking: Past, Present and
Possible Futures) keeping the latter for 'design the real thing'.

hope this is helpfull,

Diane

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Van: PhD-Design - This list is for discussion of PhD studies and related research in Design [[log in to unmask]] namens CHUA Soo Meng Jude (PLS) [[log in to unmask]]
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 augustus 2013 17:52
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Onderwerp: Re: Design Thinking Unique to Design?

Yes but what about some geographer like David HArvey, who has possibly defensible (even if controversial) ideas about how to design a society?



Soo (Jude:)

"Is design thinking a certain thinking, so that when one has it, one is then a designer". That's a great question, but I didn't spend 6 years at design school for a sociologist or historian to come along and call themselves a designer.



Thanks

Mark Evans
Designer/designeur





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Sent: 16 August 2013 14:49
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Subject: Re: Design Thinking Unique to Design?

David

Thank you for your post for which I have been awaiting responses to some of the questions with great anticipation. Despite this being a hot topic on the List, I have been disappointed that you have not received any replies to any of your questions.

I am afraid that I cannot answer your questions as, on a personal level, ’the jury is out’ as to what design thinking is and how it impacts on education and practice (design and/or beyond). In fact, to help me get my head around the issue I have had to recruit a PhD student and would like to take this opportunity to thank members of the List (academics and practitioners) who have been very gracious in responding to his requests for interviews. The responses collated to date indicate both consensus and conflict.

By replying to your post, I hope to rekindle your questions which I have slightly re-phrased and those marked with an asterisk being of particular interest to myself:

1. How do you develop capability in design thinking?

2. How do you know when someone does or does not have capability as a design thinker?

3. Is design thinking a purely innate and intuitive capacity that you have or do not have?*

4. Is design thinking something that can be taught, developed and even assessed?

5. Can we legitimately say it is unique to the field and can we prove it by being able to specify and isolate what it is as
     well as being able to articulate a specific pedagogical approach for its development?*

Thanks

Dr Mark Evans
Reader in Industrial Design
Design Practice Research Group Leader
Loughborough Design School




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