Well, it depends on the document! But if we are talking about scholarly
articles and monographs - yes, the document is the quantum of knowledge.
Just as the document surrogate (say, an abstract or bibliographic
details plus indexing) is the quantum of information.
John Briggs
On 08/08/2013 10:00, Adam Pope wrote:
> Are you suggesting by this that managing information is the same as
> managing knowledge?
>
> Is a document really 'knowledge'? I'm not sure you'd find universal
> agreement on that issue...
>
> On 8/08/2013 9:45 AM, "CCooke" <[log in to unmask]
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> I really like 'The Chartered Institute for the Knowledge
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>
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> Caroline
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> 1. New name for CILIP (3)
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> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 16:12:58 +0100
> From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
>
> Having finally looked at the press release for the "proposed new
> name", the thing that leapt out at me was that the strapline:
>
> The Chartered Institute for the Knowledge Professions
>
> would make a decent name, and the new name:
>
> Information & Library Professionals UK
>
> would make a decent strapline!
>
> Has anyone seriously suggested this? (Robert Clayton, below, came
> close with his suggestion of a working name.)
>
> Would it be worth putting forward such an amendment to the AGM motion?
>
> John Briggs
>
> On 02/08/2013 11:06, Tom Roper wrote:
> > Though our North American medical library colleagues have no problem
> > with calling themselves the Medical Library Association.
> > Has anyone else noted the puzzling plural in the proposed strapline,
> > /The Chartered Institute for the knowledge professions/ Surely we are
> > one profession, though we may manifest variously as librarians,
> > knowledge managers, etc etc.
> >
> >
> > On 2 August 2013 10:45, Frances Hendrix
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
> > > You are right, and one can think of many more examples., it’s a
> > good idea, > but our colleges who are not public librarians but work
> > in Law firms, > Medical associations etc could do with a better name
> > than LA, but not ILPUK!
> > >
> > > f
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Library and Information Professionals >
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>] On Behalf Of Robert Clayton >
> > Sent: 02 August 2013 10:28 > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > > Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Organisations can have working names for aspects of their
> activities.
> > Comic
> > > Relief isn't a charity, for example, it is the trading name of an
> > > organisation called Charity Projects. English Heritage is actually
> > the > Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission for England. We
> > (yes, I am a > member) could use the Library Association as a
> working
> > name if we wished, > regardless of the title of the organisation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think ILPUK is any significant improvement over CILIP. It
> > certainly > isn't easier to say, which is supposed to have been one
> > of the reasons for a > change.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Clayton | Culture & Leisure Services Manager > > Rutland
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> > Tom Roper
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:18:08 +0100
> From: Adrian Smith <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
>
> Royal College of Knowledge
>
> Adrian, Headingley
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 17:30:10 +0100
> From: CHARLES OPPENHEIM <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
>
> It may well be too late to put a proposed amendment to the Motion
> in. In any case, I'd rather we have a vote on what is being
> proposed by the powers that be (in the hope that it gets turned down
> by a large majority)
>
> Charles
>
> Professor Charles Oppenheim
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: John Briggs <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, 7 August 2013, 16:12
> Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
>
>
> Having finally looked at the press release for the "proposed new name",
> the thing that leapt out at me was that the strapline:
>
> The Chartered Institute for the Knowledge Professions
>
> would make a decent name, and the new name:
>
> Information & Library Professionals UK
>
> would make a decent strapline!
>
> Has anyone seriously suggested this? (Robert Clayton, below, came close
> with his suggestion of a working name.)
>
> Would it be worth putting forward such an amendment to the AGM motion?
>
> John Briggs
>
> On 02/08/2013 11:06, Tom Roper wrote:
> > Though our North American medical library colleagues have no problem
> > with calling themselves the Medical Library Association.
> > Has anyone else noted the puzzling plural in the proposed strapline,
> > /The Chartered Institute for the knowledge professions/
> > Surely we are one profession, though we may manifest variously as
> > librarians, knowledge managers, etc etc.
> >
> >
> > On 2 August 2013 10:45, Frances Hendrix
> <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
> > > You are right, and one can think of many more examples., it’s
> a good
> > idea,
> > > but our colleges who are not public librarians but work in Law
> firms,
> > > Medical associations etc could do with a better name than LA,
> but not
> > ILPUK!
> > >
> > > f
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Library and Information Professionals
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>] On Behalf Of Robert Clayton
> > > Sent: 02 August 2013 10:28
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > > Subject: Re: New name for CILIP
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Organisations can have working names for aspects of their
> activities.
> > Comic
> > > Relief isn't a charity, for example, it is the trading name of an
> > > organisation called Charity Projects. English Heritage is
> actually the
> > > Historic Buildings and Monuments Commission for England. We
> (yes, I am a
> > > member) could use the Library Association as a working name if
> we wished,
> > > regardless of the title of the organisation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I don't think ILPUK is any significant improvement over CILIP. It
> > certainly
> > > isn't easier to say, which is supposed to have been one of the
> > reasons for a
> > > change.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Clayton | Culture & Leisure Services Manager
> > >
> > > Rutland County Council
> > >
> > > Tel: 01572 75 8435 <tel:01572%2075%208435>
> > >
> > > Email: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <mailto:[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > >
> > > Web: http://www.rutland.gov.uk/leisure_and_culture.aspx
> > >
> > > Post: Rutland County Museum, Catmos Street, Oakham, Rutland,
> LE15 6HW
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > Rutland County Council
> > >
> > > Customer Service Centre: 01572 722 577 <tel:01572%20722%20577>
> > >
> > > Visitor Parking Information & Map:
> > > http://www.rutland.gov.uk/customer_services/visitor_parking.aspx
> > >
> > > Email Enquiries: [log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > > Council Website: http://www.rutland.gov.uk
> > > Visiting Rutland? http://www.discover-rutland.co.uk
> > >
> > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and
> may not be
> > > official policy.
> > > Internet email should not be treated as a secure form of
> communication.
> > > Please notify the sender if received in error.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tom Roper
> > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> <mailto:tom.roper <mailto:tom.roper>
>
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