I agree. Awareness first before that is done
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From: Lauro Purcil
Sent: 31/08/2013 11:27
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Subject: Re: Census Population of People with disability world wide
Considering the enormous diversity of persons with disabilities, we may
accept a stand alone census activity. It must however eventually lead
to full incorporation with the general census activities.
Lauro
Original message:
> I agree with you all, I think there is need for a deliberate effort to
> specifically collect disability statistics, not as a census, but as a
> stand alone project, taking into according the broader definition to
> ensure more believable results.
> On 30 August 2013 13:05, Lauro Purcil <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Your story Tsitsi is a common experience. Unless, one asserts to be
> asked the needed questions the enumerators tend to just ignore and take
> for granted the objective to really get the facts rather than to give
> in to their hesitations.
> Another aspect that gives reason to the unreliabiity of censuses is the
> continuing issue on definition of Persons with Disabilities.
> Regards,
> Lauro
> Original message:
> I totally agree, the census data is unreliable. For instance, when we
> had our Census in Zimbabwe in 2012, the enumerator did not ask me a
> single question related to disability. I was the 10th household of the
> day, and I believe this was the same with the other 9 households. When
> I asked him if there are questions related to disability, he said to me
> with a straight face 'I just looked at you all (we were 3) and saw that
> you do not have a disability, so there was no need to ask such kind of
> questions.'. When I challenged him how he knew that we were not
> disabled, he said that I cant see it. I then asked him to ask one of
> the questions related to disability on the questionnaire. The question
> was asking if I had problems using my hands when doing households
> chores, and also if I had any condition such as epilepsy. Then I asked
> him how he can tell if by just mere looking at me if I have those
> conditions. He then said, 'The problem is that some of these questions
> are too sensitive so I would rather not ask people' - I was damn
> shocked, so you can imagine when the statistics came out, how wrong they were.
> Unfortunately, he was in an 'activist's house' I then told him to start
> the whole questionnaire all over again, asking me each and every
> question, with me making sure he does that. I could see the discomfort
> but he did it anyway because I had threatened him to report him to his
> authorities, if he kept on not asking people such kind of questions. I
> then thought, did this guy receive any form of training before
> executing his duties? Does he know why these questions are asked?
> I was then forced to do a small survey to just check how many other
> people were not asked disability-specific questions. Out of my 21
> students, none of them was asked such a question apart from them having
> counted in different constituencies. I also went for lunch at our
> senior common room, I asked my fellow lecturers if anyone had been
> asked any question related to disability, the response was not
> surprising - none. Here we go with our national statistics!!!!! I can
> even imagine if such kind of enumerators would ask questions related to
> income, jobs, and level of education to disabled people because they
> would just think that these issues are beyond their comprehension!!!
>> From that day, I became sceptical about our national statistics on disability.
> On 30 August 2013 03:35, Keith Armstrong <[log in to unmask]
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> The major problem with Census data is. in order to measure impairment
> in the community is the perceived safety the population has with
> sharing personal information to the Census maker. Many disabled people
> deny they have an impairment at job interview because of fear (often
> justified) of employment discrimination. Nor will it measure the degree
> of impairment (essential for planning for resource needs) in the population.
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