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I tried to ignore Dave's reference to distance learning, but since
others have taken it up, I will agree with Helen and Ju. How could I do
otherwise as a graduate of the Open University and having taken my
Masters by distance learning via Aberystwyth?
In fact all of the current archivists and one records manager employed
here either took their qualification by distance learning through a
university or through the correspondence course that used to be run by
the Society of Archivists. I wouldn't dare to argue that we are
necessarily any better for it but I don't see any big reasons against it
either. These days networking with other students on the course is much
easier than it used to be so even that problem of isolation is less of
an issue than it may once have been.
Now, I really must answer an e-mail from someone enquiring about work
experience, and another from someone hoping to volunteer, and stop
looking at my inbox.
Pamela Birch
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From: Archivists, conservators and records managers.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ju Jaiyeoba
Sent: 15 August 2013 12:25
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Subject: Re: Vacancy for Archives and Records Management Intern
Thank you Helen, could not agree more.
E Jai
Information & Library Student & p/t Information Assistant
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Sent: Thursday, 15 August 2013, 12:06
Subject: Re: Vacancy for Archives and Records Management Intern
In reply to Dave's suggestion that distance learning courses should be
abandoned, I am currently studying for my Masters in Archive
Administration at Aberystwyth University. I simply wouldn't be able to
do it if the Department of Information Studies didn't offer a distance
learning programme. Yes it is hard work at times juggling studying and
my full time job. However, after taking that decision, and funding the
course myself, I do feel that this is something I really want to achieve
to enhance the knowledge I have already gained working in the archive
sector.
I simply couldn't afford to take a career break to do a full time
course, and I am not the only one in this situation. Distance learning
offers real opportunities for people like me, as well as offering wider
ranging discussions regarding "the professional experience" at the study
schools.
Helen Hargest
Archives and Imaging Co-ordinator
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From: Archivists, conservators and records managers.
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dave Bryant
Sent: 14 August 2013 13:46
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Vacancy for Archives and Records Management Intern
Craig
It is nothing to do with 'independently wealthy, well intentioned,
do-gooders'. Blame the current work and educational systems in England,
and probably in the whole UK.
It is astonishing, how much organisations started asking for volunteers,
and not only asking, but also demanding CVs, cover letters and every
possible justification to probe and see why a poor soul wants to give
his/her time for free. So ironic.
If an organisation does not have or does not want to pay money, maybe,
just maybe, they should re-organise their own working arrangements and
make own staff to do tasks for which they are asking volunteers. But
would they?
About the educational system... Well, why universities keep expanding
classes, if less and less available workplaces appear? Look at the
archive sector: a few years ago, we had a small number of
graduate-archivists, who had a high chance to find a job, but now... At
the present, most information courses started taking more and more
students, because they get more money (we all know that), and really do
not care if there is a market for the future graduates.
Personally, I feel that classes need to be trimmed down, distance
learning should be abandoned, and pre-course work must be given to
people with diplomas, and not to people who are planning to become an
archivist. Why we do not care about people with diplomas and keep
breeding more archivists, when the demand for them is so low?
It is not the 'independently wealthy, well intentioned, do-gooders'
devalue the information sector; it is a group of volunteers with
diplomas, who were just unfortunate enough to graduate in time when the
archive/information sector became saturated. These volunteers need to
have/keep/gain work experience in this sector, as without it getting a
paid job would be impossible.
If we start implementing all those measures, then perhaps the
archive/information/curatorship sector might become highly valuable
again, and we would not have any more disgruntled workers and unhappy
graduates.
Regards
Dave Bryant
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