Hi,

My suggestion is to have a two day hands-on course.

Day 1 - Looking at Radius fundamentals (Or even setting up a Radius server) and how it fits with Moonshot
Day 2 - setting up Moonshot to handle basic authentication stuff, e.g., SSH.

Or if possible do both in one day... 

The main aim for me to attend this course would be so that I can setup basic Moonshot authentication and have enough  knowledge about the workings of Moonshot to be able to integrate it with other authentication mechanisms.

Regards,
Ahmed Sajid,
STFC.

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From: Moonshot community list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rhys Smith
Sent: 16 July 2013 22:43
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Subject: Re: Training Course

Hi David,

Thanks for the input. Totally agree with your points in principle.

However, Janet Training doesn't really offer training to end users, rather we provide training for our direct customers - universities, colleges, schools, local gov, etc. So our focus here is definitely more on the application integrators / Administrator end of things.

And of those two, I'm leaning towards concentrating heavily on the Administrator end of things. That's typically the kind of delegate we get on our existing courses.

I'm not convinced that there would be a huge amount of take-up from our community for a course aimed at application integrators - do we have that many people who are going to be doing that aspect of things? (I'm not saying that community doesn't exist and isn't large, rather just that they're not the kind of people who would usually attend a course run by Janet Training).

Does anyone strongly disagree with this?

Rhys.


On 16/07/2013 17:19, "David Chadwick" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Hi Rhys
>
>It may be that several different courses are needed, for different 
>audiences
>
>e.g. for developers, how to integrate Moonshot code into your favourite 
>application for administrators, how to install, configure, manage and 
>monitor a Moonshot infrastructure and its applications for end users, 
>how to set up your community of interest and use Moonshot for VOs, 
>authn and authz
>
>Which you choose may depend upon demand and/or the level of funding you 
>have to spend on training.
>
>I would start with application developers first and end with end users
>
>regards
>
>David
>
>On 16/07/2013 16:48, Rhys Smith wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We at Janet are now starting to plan a Janet Training - 
>> www.ja.net/training - course for Moonshot, to follow on from the 
>> successful existing eduroam and Shibboleth training courses that we 
>> regularly run.
>>
>> Two questions for everyone.
>>
>>
>> Firstly, we're having a get-together in London next Friday (26th), 
>> where we'll be looking at the structure, objectives, etc of the 
>> course that I've put together so far. If anyone is interested in 
>> joining us for the day, your help in shaping the content and delivery 
>> of the course would be most useful. It would also provide you with 
>> the opportunity to spend the day with most of the development team 
>> from Janet and some of our core external developers (i.e. Sam and 
>> Margaret), where we can talk all things Moonshot. If you are 
>> interested, drop me a mail to register your interest ASAP.
>>
>>
>> Secondly, it'd be good to get feedback from you all offline as well.
>> I'm looking for the following kind of input:
>>
>> * What content would be most useful from a training course? (e.g.
>> lots of technical background on all of the technologies in use vs 
>> concentrating on discussion of real world deployment, etc)
>>
>> * What type of content would be most useful? (e.g. hands on training 
>> on VMs where you actually set stuff up vs in depth discussion and
>> whiteboarding)
>>
>> * What method of delivery would be most useful? (e.g. a one day in 
>> person course, an online course delivered in hourly chunks spread 
>> over several days/weeks)?
>>
>> * Basically, let me know what you'd like to get from such a training 
>> course when it exists.
>>
>> You can either provide this feedback on this forum, to facilitate 
>> discussion, or just mail me privately if you would so prefer.
>>
>> Thanks all! Rhys. -- Dr Rhys Smith Identity, Access, and Middleware 
>> Specialist Cardiff University & Janet - the UK's research and 
>> education network
>>
>> email: [log in to unmask] / [log in to unmask] GPG: 0xDE2F024C
>>
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