I'm happy with dream state fluttering, Doug, Lawrence. I had missed 'not all there'. Re-reading, I hear harpstrings. Hope your GP is up for entertainment, Lawrence.
Bill
On 06/06/2013, at 2:27 AM, Lawrence Upton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> spot on, Doug
>
> the enigmatic "yes" is a settling for something maybe -- we're into
> idiom here which can be dodgy across the ocean
>
> it doesnt here necessarily imply lawyers though imagine that's where
> it came from
>
> earlier on I was trying to access facilities and said of some
> proposal "I'll settle for that"
>
> I'm caught here, wanting to avoid explication wch i see as an evil
> undermining poetry and also not wanting to be cussed (2 syllables) -
> anyway
>
> butterflies flutter
>
> butterflies settle
>
> things that are undermined settle
>
> stomachs flutter
>
> people hold
>
> structures hold
>
> you know all this
>
> i just mean I was conscious of these things as I wrote
>
> L
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics"
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> Sent:Wed, 5 Jun 2013 09:58:15 -0600
> Subject:Re: holding
>
> I took the flutter to be part of a kind of dream state situation,
> Lawrence, but that might be off...
>
> although there's the 'settling for' there, too...
>
> how it gets there...
>
> Doug
> On 2013-06-05, at 9:11 AM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
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>>
>>
>> I have never managed it, fluttering on high heels.
>>
>> I hesitated about posting the poem because I worried that the
>> cunnilingus (cunniligual?) element in the little narrative might
>> foreground itself.
>>
>> I have never much liked michael douglas. nor his father. Nor his
>> wife. I did hear his jabbering; but some reports later suggest the
>> risk is very slight - though horrific if you catch the xyz he
> caught -
>> and can be covered by an addition to the standard STI screening
> that,
>> in this country is free though i am sure our thieves' govt is
> working
>> on that. I shall add it to the list of things to raise with my
> General
>> Prac when we meet soon; I like to entertain him!
>>
>> L
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Poetryetc: poetry and poetics"
>> To:
>> Cc:
>> Sent:Wed, 5 Jun 2013 22:38:32 +1000
>> Subject:Re: holding
>>
>> Can you flutter on high heels, Lawrence? Dangerous territory you
>> describe anyway, fair carcinogenic, if we believe the likes of
> Michael
>> Douglas. What a prat he is, really.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On 05/06/2013, at 9:48 PM, Lawrence Upton wrote:
>>
>>> Holding
>>>
>>>
>>> It is a first thing state: confusions flirt
>>>
>>> with us in their sleepy waking desire --
>>>
>>> Yes, one says one time, but what was that to? --
>>>
>>> roused by the other's presence in new light;
>>>
>>>
>>> neither may tell what we have settled for:
>>>
>>> you flutter to me, naked, on high heels;
>>>
>>> and I, attracted, not all there, approach;
>>>
>>> we meet and find embrace, kissing fiercely.
>>>
>>>
>>> You kneel to lick my rising cock; or else
>>>
>>> I kneel myself, kissing you on the cunt,
>>>
>>> my face burrowing into it, the scent strong,
>>>
>>> unwashed; I block all else, pushing against
>>>
>>>
>>> warm flesh, and into it; and feel you press
>>>
>>> back, yet balancing yourself, so I may kiss
>>>
>>> and lick some way right inside you. I shake.
>>>
>>> I feel you shudder as you lean forward
>>>
>>>
>>> so that we must stabilise both our bodies
>>>
>>> You grip my skull; I am immersed with you.
>>>
>>> We sway thus, low branches in a fast stream,
>>>
>>> trees uprooted by their own weight, holding.
>
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