Faye did also very kindly send a copy of David's instructions to my e-mail address. Apart from giving the URL for the Adlib COPAC gateway, they are more helpful than the download from the Adlib FAQ page because the screenshot used shows the complete screen and gives the context of where to put the COPAC-specific information so that if, like ourselves, you have a non-standard application with no friendly databases set up already, it is possible to see where in Adlib Designer the changes need to be made (it was crucial for me to realize that the friendly databases are part of the application set up, not the database set up).
I now have COPAC working as a friendly database on a test copy of our application, although the results are a bit disappointing, to be honest. Among the reasons for that could be the non-standard nature of our application but I also don't have the qbf_ext screen specified in David's set up details - it isn't in the download available from the Adlib FAQ page. As a quick fix, I made a copy of qbf_bl and renamed it qbf_ext. Is there anywhere on the Adlib site that I can get hold of the correct qbf_ext screen? It would seem sensible to test with that before I comment further!
With thanks,
Peter
Peter Salt
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adlib Users [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Mcleod, Faye
> Sent: 17 May 2013 08:40
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Library Catalogue and Deriving from External Sources
>
> I think Peter's suggestion is excellent.
>
> Perhaps the next AdLib update could remove the broken links (sorry - if
> something doesn't work I do tend to call it broken, without assigning blame!)
> and include the link to COPAC.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Faye
>
> Ms. Faye McLeod
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> On 16 May 2013 14:54, Peter Salt <[log in to unmask]
> net.com<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> If David has compiled a step-by-step guide to setting up COPAC as a Friendly
> Database, I'm sure that many of us would be interested, and it would be
> great if it could be more widely available. To save Faye a lot of e-mailing, and
> to make it permanently available, would David be willing to make it available
> through the Adlib website? There is an existing FAQ topic "How can I set
> external sources as friendly databases?", but the downloadable Word
> document doesn't cover COPAC and begins with the instruction to "Create a
> friendly database in the data source in which you wish to be able to derive
> records from the external source, ... (See the Designer Help for more
> information about creating friendly databases.)" which isn't terribly specific!
>
> Thanks!
>
> Peter
>
> Peter Salt
> Editor, Bibliography of British and Irish History (BBIH) Institute of Historical
> Research University of London Senate House Malet Street LONDON WC1E
> 7HU
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>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adlib Users
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> > On Behalf Of Smith, Marianne
> > Sent: 16 May 2013 13:46
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:ADLIB-
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> > Subject: Re: Library Catalogue and Deriving from External Sources
> >
> > Yes please ☺
> >
> > Marianne
> >
> > Marianne Smith
> > College Librarian
> > The Royal College of Surgeons of Edinburgh Nicolson Street, Edinburgh
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> > From: Adlib Users
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:ADLIB-
> [log in to unmask]>]
> > On Behalf Of Mcleod, Faye
> > Sent: 16 May 2013 11:51
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:ADLIB-
> [log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Library Catalogue and Deriving from External Sources
> >
> > Dear All,
> >
> > yesterday afternoon, I received an email from David Forster (AdLib
> > Trainer/Consultant). Whilst unable to fix the link to BL, he did email
> > instructions of how to set up to derive from COPAC. Would anyone like
> > me to pass these instructions on?
> >
> > It does seem a shame that such a useful feature is broken.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Ms. Faye McLeod
> > Archivist
> >
> > Jaguar Heritage Archive
> > Heritage Motor Centre
> > Banbury Road
> > Gaydon
> > Warwickshire
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> >
> > tel +44 (0)1926 645083
> > fax +44 (0)1926 645086
> > e-mail
> >
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> >
> > Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust, Registered Office: Abbey Road, Whitley,
> > Coventry CV3 4LF Registered in England No: 1709907, Registered under
> > Charities Act 1960, Registered Number 286863 JDHT Limited, Registered
> > Office: Abbey Road, Whitley, Coventry, CV3 4LF. Registered in England No:
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> > On 16 May 2013 11:40, Tabitha Driver
> >
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]><mailto:tabithad
> @quaker.org.uk<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>> wrote:
> > Dear all,
> >
> > This deriving records feature also appears in our new Adlib 7 library
> > application. Ours includes Library of Congress, but not the British
> > Library catalogue. Like your archive version it also sadly appears not
> > to link up with the LC data.
> >
> > If it is on the standard system(s) and many customers would find it
> > helpful, perhaps Adlib would consider fixing it for both LC and BL, if
> > as the BFI case suggests it is still technically possible?
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Tabitha Driver
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> >
> > From: Stephen McConnachie
> >
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:stephen_mcconnachi
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> > Sent: 15 May 2013 16:11
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> > Subject: Re: Library Catalogue and Deriving from External Sources
> >
> > Hi Faye,
> >
> > Yes, at the BFI we encountered the problem, Adlib advised us that the
> > BL service has been taken down or disrupted. However we did manage to
> > configure through an alternative service which delivers all BL data I believe.
> >
> > I'm travelling today so can't check our configuration,but I'll check
> > later and let you know. We did successfully derive data, so It does
> > work, although we haven't yet rolled it out as a live cataloguing tool in the
> Library.
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On 15 May 2013, at 13:24, "Mcleod, Faye"
> >
> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:fmcleod@JAGUARLANDROVE
> R.COM><mailt
> > o:fmcleod@JAGUARLANDROVE<mailto:fmcleod@JAGUARLANDROVE>
> > R.COM<http://R.COM>>> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > This morning, I came to use the "Library Catalogue" section of AdLib
> > Archive for the first time, in order to catalogue our small reference
> > library in the reading room
> >
> > I was rather excited to try the "Derive Function" - input the ISBN,
> > press the button, and a number of fields are automatically completed
> > for you. The derive button actually lists several databases for you to
> > chose from - British Library, Library of Congress and so forth.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I've now tried all the options and the only one working
> > is the National Library of the Netherlands. I contacted the AdLib help
> > desk who told me that the external institutions must have changed
> > their settings and there was nothing AdLib could do about it. It
> > didn't sound like they were planning to do anything about it either.
> >
> > So, has anyone else encountered this problem and found a
> > workaround/setting that can be changed or am I just going to have to
> > do it the traditional way?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> >
> > Faye
> >
> > Ms. Faye McLeod
> > Archivist
> >
> > Jaguar Heritage Archive
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