On 16/05/2013 13:03, Kashif Mohammad wrote:
> Hi
>
> I agree with Mark that we should discuss pros and cons of different puppet implementation before moving whole site to Puppet. HepSysMan seems to be natural place for this kind of discussion but unfortunately time for puppet session is quite short in next HepSysMan meeting. Is there any chance of extending puppet session in HepSysMan ?
I agree. I think we should drop the post-emi discussion where we have
ver little say and use the time to discuss puppet.
cheers
alessandra
> Personally I think that if the sites which have already implemented puppet can present 2-3 slides about their Puppet implementation and issues with their approach.
>
> Cheers
> Kashif
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Testbed Support for GridPP member institutes [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Slater
> Sent: 16 May 2013 12:48
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> Subject: Re: puppet and hiera/templates
>
> Hi Alessandra,
>
> This is a fair point - I thought about this myself but came to the
> conclusion that even if noone else uses the modules, if there's more
> flexibility built in from the off then that helps me in the future
> if/when software changes, etc. Having said that, this is part of the
> reason why I haven't gone 'all the way' with heira, etc. and just used
> templates as these are easy to do (just template each config file so you
> can add stuff later).
>
> On the wider issue of general use of group provided modules, is it worth
> having a dedicated meeting of interested parties at all? I have looked
> at the CERN ones but they seem a little like overkill for most things I
> need them for and still a bit CERN centric (though that may just be me
> not giving them a chance!). Maybe just an informal meeting where each
> site/user gives an overview of what modules they use/can provide might
> reduce duplication of work...?
>
> Just my 2 cents :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mark
>
> On 16/05/13 12:34, Alessandra Forti wrote:
>> Here is the dilemma... we are discussing the structure of our own
>> repository and there are of course different ways of doing things. One
>> of these is to avoid site related values in the modules directory in
>> order to simplify sharing them with other sites. So the real question
>> here is how many sites would benefit from this? Because if we are
>> adopting a more complicated way and then nobody is using it is just a
>> wast of time.
>>
>> cheers
>> alessandra
>>
>> On 16/05/2013 12:27, Christopher J. Walker wrote:
>>> On 16/05/13 11:56, Mark Slater wrote:
>>>> Hi Alessandra,
>>>>
>>>> In my puppet scripts I use templates extensively. I haven't gone to
>>>> hiera yet but I am thinking about it...
>>>>
>>> The CERN templates do.
>>>
>>> Ben Jones gave a talk at Hepix on what they've done and he's leading a
>>> puppet taskforce I think.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> On 16/05/13 11:51, Alessandra Forti wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> how many people are using hiera/templates mechanism in puppet to
>>>>> contain site related values?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> alessandra
>>>>>
>>
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