Like the Olson quote, Doug.
Andrew
On 3 May 2013 00:53, Douglas Barbour <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This is interesting, & I dont know if it's happening here quite like that.
>
> I agree with Jill that anthologies do good work when they show us what's
> been happening recently, choosing from work that's been published, that has
> already made it through some fairly interesting editorial screens, & also,
> perhaps, had some form of reception.
>
> Also, we dont all write all the time....
>
> And an anthology is sort of there to let people know about some of the
> work they might want to track down.... A good anthology invites you to take
> a look at more work by some writers, in the books from which the poems in
> the antho came...
>
> One way of looking at it, anyway...
>
> Doug
> On 2013-05-01, at 6:37 PM, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > Quite a few poets I know were talking about this - as if we were
> expected to go into a great flurry of love poem writing ecstasy - and a few
> actually queried the publisher. The response I got was along the lines of
> them wanting the collection to be all new because there are a couple of
> other collections around (though those love anths aren't very new, really -
> unless I'm missing one of them) and also as a promotional point, ‘new’
> Australian love poems so that mainstream audiences (whoever they may be?)
> feel drawn to pick the book up, so they said. Not sure I quite get the
> reasoning, but, of course, their prerogative as publisher and/or editor.
> But a drag for us 'producers of content'.
> >
> > As for grants - certainly ozco was funding mags and journals for new
> work. But anthologies - no, they weren't part of that, and it was expected
> they may contain previously published as, indeed, any book of poetry most
> likely contains poems previously published in a mag.
> >
> > J
> >
> > On 02/05/2013, at 9:36 AM, Andrew Burke wrote:
> >
> >> Is the pub/unpub to do with going for grant money? Or paying for rights
> to
> >> republish? The Love anthology presently being compiled only wanted
> >> unpublished. I wondered why ...
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2 May 2013 09:40, Jill Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>> It was partly to do with a (mis)judgement - and something, err, more
> >>> personal.
> >>>
> >>> Also - this is partly to do with a discussion I had with someone
> recently
> >>> - the editors required new *unpublished* work, whereas what would have
> been
> >>> good would have been to gather up recent work, whether pub or unpub to
> get
> >>> a real sense of the field. In other words, there seem to have been a
> spate
> >>> of anthologies and collections that want to only take the unpublished,
> so
> >>> that they become a book form of a journal, in a sense, rather than a
> >>> curated volume scanning the field (whatever the field may be). It's as
> if,
> >>> as my friend said, every anthology seems like another writing workshop
> or
> >>> that we all have to be in a state of writerly effusion at all times
> ready
> >>> for the next anthology's call. Don't know if this is the case in other
> >>> lands but it's a bit the thing here at the moment. A narrow view of the
> >>> 'new', maybe.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Jill
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 02/05/2013, at 8:53 AM, Chris Jones wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 01/05/13 20:44, Jill Jones wrote:
> >>>>> It was more than just the usual editorial turn down. Anyway … won't
> go
> >>> further with it.
> >>>>
> >>>> I am guessing this has to do with what is considered experimental. (I
> >>> have had both experimental, too hard theorist and popular, which makes
> for
> >>> a difficult time when a bio is requested. not to mention the queer or
> gay
> >>> prob)
> >>>>
> >>>> However the discussion of collage I found interesting. The
> mis-readings
> >>> of Deleuze are interesting, too.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> BLOG http://abdevpoetics.blogspot.com.au/
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew
> >> http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
> >> 'Undercover of Lightness'
> >> http://walleahpress.com.au/recent-publications.html
> >> 'Shikibu Shuffle'
> >>
> http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/new-from-aboveground-press-shikibu.html
> >
>
> Douglas Barbour
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> You know, verse
> is a lovely thing.
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> It issues,
> like the vapors,
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> from the rock
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> Charles Olson
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Andrew
http://hispirits.blogspot.com/
'Undercover of Lightness'
http://walleahpress.com.au/recent-publications.html
'Shikibu Shuffle'
http://abovegroundpress.blogspot.com.au/2012/03/new-from-aboveground-press-shikibu.html
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