Well, the inescapable conclusion to that remark is that membership wasn't the deciding factor...
Paul Ashton
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Ummmm...given the time I had to get it all together probably not!!
Nick
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Interesting explanation - but thanks. If he were still alive, I wonder if Peter Townsend would have been invited to sign the letter if he wasn't at the time a member of the SPA!
Paul Ashton
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Only those on the current SPA membership list were asked to sign up to the letter - any alternative trawl of social policy professors would have proved too time-consuming I'm afraid. Of 52 requests we received 51 (I think) signatories if memory serves. I was also conscious in making the request to members that the SPA is currently re-jigging its membership renewal system - moving to Direct Debit - so it may be that some people who are longstanding members have not yet renewed their membership for this year...of course it is equally possible that they do not wish to be members of the SPA!
Nick Ellison
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If we're reawakening that post, I'd add to it that the list was conspicuous by the absence of some professors' names, too. I cannot imagine why one of the most foremost names in the area of child poverty, the main subject of the letter, was missing. Was David Piachaud not invited because he was one of the few, if only, experts to have the courage to criticise some aspects of Townsend's work on defining poverty, or did he just not wish to sign the round-robin?
Oh, and for those who missed the riposte to that letter (which although published on the online 'Torygraph' website, was but a blog by Toby Young -- Michael's son) it's at: http://tinyurl.com/cd777zn .
Paul Ashton
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But then you avoided being smeared by the Torygraph as a member of the Labour Party! You win some, you lose some...
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Sent: 29 March 2013 10:07
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Re Professor Rummery's message
I was delighted to read the letter too and have acted upon Kirstein's suggestion. Yet it is a great pity that those of us who do not have the title 'Professor' should not have been invited to sign this letter too.
Are we not 'experts' or expert enough ?
Dr Tony Maltby
Chair, Sheffield 50+
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> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 09:50:03 +0000
> From: Kirstein Rummery <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Letter in today's Guardian
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> Some of you may have seen a letter in today's Guardian from over 50 social policy professors highlighting the dangers of welfare cuts. Thanks to Alan and Carol Walker for organising this. For those of you who tweet/facebook/ use social media, it would be wonderful if you could spread this as far as you can. It may make not a blind bit of difference, but we all felt strongly that it needed to be *said*, and that social policy as a discipline should be providing the evidence to back it up.
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> Thanks, and a happy Easter to everyone
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> http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/mar/27/benefit-cuts-undermine-civilised-society
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