I have experienced a similar thing with lysozyme immediately forming a clear gel when attempting to dissolve at high concentration in D2O. The clear gel did not readily dissolve on dilution (in D2O) and I discarded it. I later made the sample by dissolving in H2O and dialysing to D2O.
Another protein I have worked with, a multimeric ATPase, requiring ATP to assemble, forms a white gel when prepared in isolation from other proteins of its complex and ATP is added. From memory, the gel formation is fast (minutes) at higher concentration (~20mg/ml), and slow (hours to days) at lower concentration 1-5mg/ml, but this formed a precipitate not a gel. Presumably this was a polymerisation. The white gel was resistant to dilution or addition of salts.
After baking, I find that meat juices cool to form a gel, transparent and optically clear. Like gelatine.
Sincerely,
Anthony
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Does your protein have multiple exposed Cys residues? I have observed this before with a protein I worked with that had many exposed Cys residues. In my case I could add more DTT and minutes later the gel would be completely dissipated. My hand-wavy explanation was that the protein stays folded but becomes highly crosslinked when concentrated and exposed to air. I did have some small amount of DTT in my buffer to start with, but I assume it became oxidized relatively quickly (as DTT does), leaving my protein thiols to go wild and make S-S bonds between themselves.
Good luck,
Mike
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Subject: [ccp4bb] gelification of a pure protein
Dear All,
I am presently faced with a peculiar case in the lab. We are expressing a protein in E. coli and we are able to express it as a fusion protein without problems . Fusion cleavage goes well and the final product looks homogenous by size-exclusion chromatography with the expected molecular weight. There are no signs of aggregation. However when we lower the salt concentration by dialysis then the protein forms a gel. transparent , optically clear, with no fluffy material (in the cold room).
Gelification seems to occur when we lower the concentration below 100 mM NaCl. This protein has a fairly high pI (~9.0). Attempts to reverse the process by gentle heating or salt addition have been so far unsuccessful. It is not a thermophilic protein. We have not been able to obtain crystals so far.
Has anyone already observed this kind of behavior and/or have any suggestions?
Many thanks in advance .
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