Re fit back
Hi Dawn
I am an OHP and would be interested in attending this course in the
south west. Is this possible?
Thanks
Dr Carly Atkinson

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>  1. FIT BACK (3)
>  2. empty brain moments! HAVS and diabetes (2)
>  3. Recorded in a consultation (2)
>  4. Cognitive testing following stroke
>  5. Counselling and language services (3)
>  6. Breaking news - FOM And SOM to merge in next two years
>  7. Mental health at work
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:18:37 -0000
> From:    Paula Highton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: FIT BACK
>
> Hi Dawn
>
> Could you please send the details of the Fitback course to me at [log in to unmask]
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> Many thanks
>
> Paula
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dawn Veal
> Sent: 04 March 2013 21:23
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] FIT BACK
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> Anita,
>
>
> Here's the programme Hope it helps. I think it offers a sensible and consistent approach and gives OHA's a sense of understanding and thus confidence. I attended it recently and was very impressed as its not often you get a course for this health area designed for OHA's.
>
> Let me know if you want me to add your names to the interested list ( and how many) once you see the programme.
>
> Dawn
>
>
>
> FitBack are also able to offer a bespoke course in house for those companies with a team of OHN's and OHA's. Please enquire now if interested
>
> Every OH department should attend this course!
> Heather Bearpark,OHN University of Huddersfield
>
> Fantastic day! Very informative course, very friendly relaxed approach from trainers who remained very professional.
> Ruth Billington OHN
>
> An excellent course. I think every Occupational Physician should attend.
> Dr Neil Shaw , Occupational Health Physician
>
> Thought provoking insight into the management of MSD's.
> Ruth Pawson OHN
>
> What would it mean to you as an OHN to be more confident in the management of your employees with MSD's, having a greater knowledge of the most common conditions seen in the workplace?
>
> This unique course has been designed specifically for Occupational Health Nurses and Advisors. Kathy Taylor MCSP HPC has over 16 years experience working as a Physiotherapist. She is one of the most experienced Physiotherapists in the FitBack team. She is a member of the Association of Chartered Physiotherapists in Occupational Health & Ergonomics. Her particular areas of interest are the management of MSD's in the workplace and the management of Low Back Pain . She is the lead course tutor and has been responsible for designing the course.
>
> About The Course:
> The course has been specifically designed to increase the knowledge and confidence of OHN's and OHA's in their management of MSD's. It looks at common work related MSD's such as low back pain, upper limb conditions and their management. Early intervention is key and we look at the important role of the OHN in early identification of symptoms to prevent disorders becoming chronic. It also investigates barriers to the employee returning to work following sickness absence.
>
> Exploring the use of Flag systems in identifying barriers in return to work, this is a highly functional course that will provide OHN's and OHA's with the tools to be able to think out of the box. The course also explores the importance of good posture and 1st line ergonomics in preventing and reducing MSD's . The advice you will be able to pass onto your employees will be invaluable.
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> Course Breakdown:
> 9.15 Registration
>
> 9.30 - 10.00 Introduction
> Aims of the course
> Epidemiology of MSDs
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> 10.00 - 11.15
> Back and Neck Pain in the workplace
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> Anatomy and Pathophysiology
> Signs and symptoms
> Is this condition serious?
> The identification of Red Flags in back and neck pain.
> When to refer on
> Case study: Group discussion
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> 11.15 - 12.15
> Work related Upper Limb Conditions (WRULDS)
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> Anatomy and pathophysiology of:
> Shoulder impingement/Frozen shoulder
> Tennis/Golfer's elbow
> Carpal tunnel syndrome
> Wrist Tenosynovitis
> Case study: Group discussion
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> 12.15 - 1.00
> The Role of Good Posture and 1st line ergonomics in preventing and reducing MSDs.
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> 1.00 - 1.45
> Lunch
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> 1.45 - 2.45
> Assessing barriers to return to work.
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> Yellow, Blue and black flags
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> 2.45 - 4.15
> Returning to work
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> Timelines and:
> The role of the Employer
> The Role of the Healthcare professional The Role of the G.P.
> Light Duties or Graded return to work?
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> 4.15 - 4.30
> Questions and Feedback
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Anita Churchouse
> Sent: 04 March 2013 21:04
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] FIT BACK
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> Hi Dawn
>
> Would certainly be interested in knowing more about the FIT BACK course and might well be interested in attending, plus have three OH advisors in Wiltshire within striking distance of SW, not sure what budget we have, but if you can provide details might be able to persuade the powers that be to allow a couple of us to attend.
>
> Please reply off list to work email address if possible to [log in to unmask]
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> Thanks
>
> Anita Churchouse
> Team Leader Wiltshire Council OH service
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DAWN
> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:06 PM
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> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] FIT BACK
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> Dear All,
>
> I am wishing to bring the FIT BACK training to the South West ( Exeter ) this year. I am wanting to set up a study day but need to have 20 people to be able run it. I am not intending for this to be a profit making exercise but found the course so fantastic when I went on it recently that I thought I would try and let others have the benefit as well.
>
> It is a one day course and I aim to run it from Sandy Park Just off junction
> 30 of M5.
>
> The course is run by Physios and aims to help OH's have a structured approach to assessment and management of ULD and back issues.
>
> If you would like to be put on the list to attend then please email me. I was thinking of running it in Septemeber/October as the SWOHG day is in May and it offers another study day later in the year.
>
> I am expecting the day to cost appox £150 which is more due to the location.
> Max 20 places.
>
> Please let me know
>
> Thanks Dawn
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:15:58 +0000
> From:    "Smith, Rachel" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: FIT BACK
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> Yes please Dawn, I would like to attend
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> Rachel :)
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 04 March 2013 20:07
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> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] FIT BACK
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> Dear All,
>
> I am wishing to bring the FIT BACK training to the South West ( Exeter ) this year. I am wanting to set up a study day but need to have 20 people to be able run it. I am not intending for this to be a profit making exercise but found the course so fantastic when I went on it recently that I thought I would try and let others have the benefit as well.
>
> It is a one day course and I aim to run it from Sandy Park Just off junction 30 of M5.
>
> The course is run by Physios and aims to help OH's have a structured approach to assessment and management of ULD and back issues.
>
> If you would like to be put on the list to attend then please email me. I was thinking of running it in Septemeber/October as the SWOHG day is in May and it offers another study day later in the year.
>
> I am expecting the day to cost appox £150 which is more due to the location. Max 20 places.
>
> Please let me know
>
> Thanks Dawn
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:05:46 +0000
> From:    jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: empty brain moments! HAVS and diabetes
>
>  Hi All
> I am having one of those moments where I have read all I have and tried a bit of a google and drawn a blank....
> one of the employees in a company i visit has well controlled diabetes (type 1) and he is thinking of applying of a job with grinders...i know the risk is minimised as much as practicable but there is still an element of exposure....he has no neurological symptoms, is 38, and i know vascular disease is a risk with his condition and i know that CTS has a higher incidence in people with diabetes. Reading my HAVs notes, that "in diabetes or excessive drinking - neuropathy starts in feet" and "invidivudals with certain relevant vascular or sensori neural disorders affecting hand/arm, for example raynauds disease or CTS not be exposed to HAV"
> gut feeling says careful monitoring...anyone have any knowledge/research i should consider before advising?
>
> Jacqui
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:13:46 +0000
> From:    jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: FIT BACK
>
> Hi Dawn
>
> I went recently and found it to be very good all research based and having been on the HSL ULD day and a back care trainign in the past this course combined the two topics very well within the day and gave practical advice on management of issues at work, so much so i have devised a check list for my clients to complete and bring with them.
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> I'd say for experienced OHNs it is a quality refresher course which covers A&P very well and for nurses new to OH courses like this are a must.
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:30:08 +0000
> From:    Georgina Mills <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: empty brain moments! HAVS and diabetes
>
> Hi Jacqui,
>
> I've carry out work for a manufacturing company who have implemented a company standard where all staff who are at a higher risk (diabetes, neck/arm/hand injuries/operations etc) are placed on an annual tier 3 schedule for their HAVS assessments.
>
> I know some might find this excessive, but so far we have seen good results and detected some very early changes.
>
> Like you, we took to our HAVS Guidelines and found very little in the way of management of those with per existing conditions in relation to vibration - so this was the best route for them.
>
> Hope that helps
>
> G
>
> On 5 Mar 2013, at 09:05, jacqui livock <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Hi All
>> I am having one of those moments where I have read all I have and tried a bit of a google and drawn a blank....
>> one of the employees in a company i visit has well controlled diabetes (type 1) and he is thinking of applying of a job with grinders...i know the risk is minimised as much as practicable but there is still an element of exposure....he has no neurological symptoms, is 38, and i know vascular disease is a risk with his condition and i know that CTS has a higher incidence in people with diabetes. Reading my HAVs notes, that "in diabetes or excessive drinking - neuropathy starts in feet" and "invidivudals with certain relevant vascular or sensori neural disorders affecting hand/arm, for example raynauds disease or CTS not be exposed to HAV"
>> gut feeling says careful monitoring...anyone have any knowledge/research i should consider before advising?
>>
>> Jacqui
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:06:12 -0000
> From:    Rita Ogden <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Recorded in a consultation
>
> Hi Claire,
> We are often asked by clients if we are happy for them to record case conferences. We agree to this on the proviso that everyone present agrees (HR, managers, OH and union reps on occasion) and we are sent a transcript following the consultation. Initially I was very wary but, as previous postings have already highlighted, as long as the consultation is professional and appropriate support and advice are given it can be to your advantage. Often a client only hears what they want to hear, especially if stress is the cause of absence. In my experience recording what is said can often support the OH advisor in the event of grievances or claims against the business.
> Kind regards,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Claire K
> Sent: 04 March 2013 13:32
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> Subject: Recorded in a consultation
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> Hi Guys and Girls
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> I am new to posting on this forum but have read and taken knowledge from all your wisdom in the past.
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> I now have a question to ask if you would kindly advise.
>
> I am finding more and more that nurses within the areas that I work are expressing concerns that clients are recording their consultations; more so in regards to absence management referrals.
> I do not know for what reason this is occuring but the nurses feel this is increasing, which was highlighted through peer supervision.
> I have emailed the RCN and am waiting for a response but thought I would ask on here.
> Would this evidence be made available in a tribunal etc even if the nurse has not given her consent.
> Should we be highlighting this at the beginning of the consultation or something in regards to this? Do any of yourselves do this??
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> Awaiting your response, or any advice where to take this predicament Kind Regards Claire
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:13:11 -0000
> From:    Catriona <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Cognitive testing following stroke
>
> I have had a similar situation - a young lad who had a serious RTA with mild
> head injury. He works in heavy industry operating machinery and since his
> return to work has had an accident due to sticking his hand into a machine
> which no one in their right mind would do. Although the company have
> investigated and admitted that the correct safety guard was not in place, it
> is a worry that he even tried to put his hand in there. They have concerns
> about his short term memory and abilty to retain important information.  I
> have found a local psychologist who can do ability, achievement and
> executive functioning testing. It is more for his own safety than anything,
> but will be interesting to see what happens next....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of Rachel
> Sent: 04 March 2013 08:33
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Cognitive testing following stroke
>
> Hi All
>
> I wonder if anyone can advise me. I have a difficult case girl in late 30's
> had a stroke end of 2011 unconscious for 4 weeks. Made good recovery
> returned to work April 2012. Phased back into role however at this time
> consultant report very vague and gp advice fit to return to work. The only
> continuing issue she had were mild seizures/short absences. She is now on
> medication denies any side effects and has not had a seizure since December.
> This girl pre absence was always quite argumentative with colleagues and not
> the best performer. She denies any issues with her performance and although
> admits if she won the lottery she would not work feels she is able to
> perform her role without any problems.
>
> The company are asking whether her poor performance could be due to her
> condition and whether whilst performance managing her we should carry out
> some cognitive testing? Any suggestions would be gratefully received and how
> to access such testing would be brilliant.
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
>
> Rachel
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:43:40 -0000
> From:    Paula Highton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Counselling and language services
>
> Does anyone know of any counselling services which provide language
> support. I have a Polish chap who needs support but his English language
> skills are not very good and therefore regular counselling may not be
> effective.
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
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> Paula
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:47:36 +0000
> From:    Libby Hassanali <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Counselling and language services
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>
> Where is he based? I know of a Polish GP surgery near Wellingborough/Northampton who may be able to advise you... here is the link
> http://cpmedicalcentre.co.uk/ Best wishes,LibbyDate: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:43:40 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Counselling and language services
> To: [log in to unmask]
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>    Does anyone know of any counselling services which provide language support. I have a Polish chap who needs support but his English language skills are not very good and therefore regular counselling may not be effective. Thanks in anticipation. Paula
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:54:20 -0000
> From:    Paula Highton <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Counselling and language services
>
> Hi Libby
>
>
>
> He is based in Sheffield, but I appreciate the link, they may know of
> links to surgeries nearby.
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>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Paula
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> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Libby Hassanali
> Sent: 05 March 2013 11:48
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Counselling and language services
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>
>
> Where is he based? I know of a Polish GP surgery near
> Wellingborough/Northampton who may be able to advise you... here is the
> link
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>
> http://cpmedicalcentre.co.uk/
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>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Libby
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> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:43:40 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [OCC-HEALTH] Counselling and language services
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Does anyone know of any counselling services which provide language
> support. I have a Polish chap who needs support but his English language
> skills are not very good and therefore regular counselling may not be
> effective.
>
>
>
> Thanks in anticipation.
>
>
>
> Paula
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:00:10 +0000
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> Subject: Breaking news - FOM And SOM to merge in next two years
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:16:23 +0000
> From:    Carr Barnes <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Mental health at work
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> Hi all
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> Just found out MIND are running 2 free webinars this month aimed at
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> Date:    Tue, 5 Mar 2013 21:58:25 +0000
> From:    Claire Kay <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Recorded in a consultation
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> Thank you so much for all your input in to my little predicament. I will feed back to my group regarding this
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> Claire > Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:06:12 +0000
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [OCC-HEALTH] Recorded in a consultation
>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>> Hi Claire,
>> We are often asked by clients if we are happy for them to record case conferences. We agree to this on the proviso that everyone present agrees (HR, managers, OH and union reps on occasion) and we are sent a transcript following the consultation. Initially I was very wary but, as previous postings have already highlighted, as long as the consultation is professional and appropriate support and advice are given it can be to your advantage. Often a client only hears what they want to hear, especially if stress is the cause of absence. In my experience recording what is said can often support the OH advisor in the event of grievances or claims against the business.
>> Kind regards,
>> Rita
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Claire K
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>> Subject: Recorded in a consultation
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>> Hi Guys and Girls
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>> I am new to posting on this forum but have read and taken knowledge from all your wisdom in the past.
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>> I now have a question to ask if you would kindly advise.
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>> I am finding more and more that nurses within the areas that I work are expressing concerns that clients are recording their consultations; more so in regards to absence management referrals.
>> I do not know for what reason this is occuring but the nurses feel this is increasing, which was highlighted through peer supervision.
>> I have emailed the RCN and am waiting for a response but thought I would ask on here.
>> Would this evidence be made available in a tribunal etc even if the nurse has not given her consent.
>> Should we be highlighting this at the beginning of the consultation or something in regards to this? Do any of yourselves do this??
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>> Awaiting your response, or any advice where to take this predicament Kind Regards Claire
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