hello all
i wanted to thank everyone for this discussion, i listened and pondered and am sorry for not having had time to participate in the last days,
also I appreciated Ken's responses and his careful explications (and again his questioning of the notion of research as "not knowing" and the issue if empirical demands)
>>Effective networks require continuous investment. This involves communities and the flow of human energy that keeps networks alive. Understanding these issues requires research>>
Where you baffle me (and provoke further thought) is your comment that you made in response to my question why you consider artist networks failing so often when we know they don't
(and we missed the opportunity to discuss further the sustainable activist and alternative community and practice networks and workshops and peer to to peer relations that i have seen grow
and being nurtured over the past 10 - 20 years) -- and it was the comment that artists did not "social and economic networks"
you then said:
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What I mean was not specific projects or art works using networks, but actual network systems that thrive and develop for longer than a year or two.
Any network can be made to function if one pours enough resources and funds in. The challenge is to develop networks that generate true networks effects, becoming more valuable and more effective as more nodes affiliate. Examples of networks that function and grow successfully have – at times – included the telephone and telegraph systems, canal networks, railroad networks prior to the advent oftrucking and then cheap air transport.
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i did not realize that you were thinking of railroads and trains.
the concept of "community", which you then deploy, however, is not the same as a railroad system, and communities, creative or not (well, are there any non-creative communities? i think not),
but has to do with other kinds os building and communing. But I think the discussion this past month addressed some of it, although I was puzzled by the Filliou filter, and still am.
I also wanted to say i much enjoyed Armin Medosch's posting, and his ideas on "fields" and looking at different understandings of 'field."
I would have liked to hear more about this.
with best wishes
Johannes Birringer
[Ken schreibt]
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“Hello, I must be going.
I cannot stay,
I came to say
I must be going.
I’m glad I came
but just the same
I must be going.”
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