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Re: Sorcery definitely not happening.

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Morgan Leigh <[log in to unmask]>

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Society for The Academic Study of Magic <[log in to unmask]>

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Sat, 23 Feb 2013 22:08:19 +1100

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Hi David,
Thanks for your reply. That does resonate with what I have heard from,
and of, other African magicians regarding witches. Does he say from
where witches derive their skills and/or their power? Indeed, do they
have power, or is it a skill set? Is it familial? Is it the same place
he gets his from? Fascinating stuff.

 Morgan Leigh
 PhD Candidate
 School of Sociology & Social Work
 University of Tasmania



On 23/02/2013 4:47 PM, David Mattichak wrote:
> Hi Morgan;
> 
> I have asked him about this. I know many witches here in Melbourne but
> these are definitely not the kind of witch he means. I asked him why he
> feared these witches and it is because he is worried that they will use
> black magic against him. It seems to be in the form of charms which he
> worries that they will bury near his home to bewitch him.
> 
> He is interested in things like the Goetia which he sees as a more
> powerful magick than that which is used by witches. He found me via my
> website http://ankhafnakhonsu.net/ and it took a couple of months to
> convince him that I was a very normal person like himself. He is
> very naive and quite polite and sees the study of magick as a defensive
> tool. This makes it hard for him to see that I view magick very
> differently as a means of self development.
> 
> He is also very interested in magick to bring money and women- very
> traditional objectives.
> 
> My correspondences with him have been very interesting.
> 
> I hope that helps to shed some light on it for you Morgan. :)
> 
> David
> 
>> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:39:40 +1100
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Sorcery definitely not happening.
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>
>> Hi David,
>> I would be interested to know what your Lagonian (?) friend defines as a
>> witch, and how he sees it as different from the magic he does.
>>
>> Morgan Leigh
>> PhD Candidate
>> School of Sociology & Social Work
>> University of Tasmania
>>
>> On 23/02/2013 2:05 PM, David Mattichak wrote:
>> > Hi Morgan;
>> >
>> > I am not really surprised that this is happening in Papua New Guinea- it
>> > is probably the wildest place on earth and the modern world has really
>> > only touched the edge of its ancient ways. I have been told that Port
>> > Moresby, where almost all Westerners are in the country, is one of the
>> > most violent and dangerous cities anywhere.
>> >
>> > At the same time I see some parallels with West Africa too where
>> > attacking witches is still very common. Over the past few months I have
>> > been corresponding with a fellow magician who lives in Lagos and his
>> > main concerns are finding magick that he can use to protect himself from
>> > 'witches'.
>> >
>> > We have to stop seeing these things as primitive superstitions and
>> > address them as real aspects of the cultures in which they are seen as
>> > being important before we can begin to understand what is going on let
>> > alone do anything about it. Unfortunately Papua New Guinea seems to be
>> > another example of the destructive and degenerative influence that
>> > western culture has upon native peoples in 'underdeveloped' countries.
>> >
>> > Thanks for the link, always an interesting topic.
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 12:10:26 +1100
>> >> From: [log in to unmask]
>> >> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Sorcery definitely not happening.
>> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >>
>> >> Oops, obviously it is The Global Mail not The Conversation...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 23/02/2013 11:13 AM, Morgan Leigh wrote:
>> >> > http://www.theglobalmail.org/feature/what-to-do-about-witchcraft/563/
>> >> >
>> >> > Here's an interesting story from The Conversation about killings of
>> >> > alleged witches and sorcerers in Papua New Guinea. The story naively
>> >> > assumes that sorcery doesn't exist and that people are just to
> dumb to
>> >> > know that people die from disease. Thus the prescribed cure is to
>> >> > educate people in western understandings of things and the
> problem will
>> >> > surely go away. I do not discount the possibility of blaming
> others as a
>> >> > coping mechanism for the death of loved ones, but it is sad to see
>> >> > western cultural imperialism being imposed on another people
> because the
>> >> > westerners can't conceive of the possibility of sorcery actually
>> > existing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Morgan Leigh
>> >> > PhD Candidate
>> >> > School of Sociology & Social Work
>> >> > University of Tasmania
>> >> >

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