Hi Dave,
We are with you, no worries. If we are here, its because we want to change
marginality to normality.
I find this list a useful link for sharing, learning, fomenting and
discussing.
Kind regards,
Sonia
> Hi Dave,
>
> All credit to you for running this list.
>
> As far as shift in attitudes in the academy are concerned, I suspect there
> is a huge ammount of prejudice out there, but my experience is that it
> always disappears once it is found that academics in this area are not mad
> evangelicals, but hold to the same standards of rigour as are expected
> across the academy.
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Green
> Sent: 12 February 2013 13:35
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Marginality
>
> Thanks a lot Ruth, Lita and Mike,
>
> What surprised me was not the prejudice on show so much as the lack of
> understanding about the nature of the list and what people have tried to
> do
> in recent years to give the academic study of magic some credibility
> within
> the academy. So beyond the personal unpleasantness - luckily moderating
> the
> list has thickened my skin to the point of elephant hide - does the list
> think that there has been a shift in attitudes within the academy or are
> we
> still operating very much at the margins and tolerated with suspicion?
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dr Dave Green
>
> Senior Lecturer in Sociology, University of the West of England, Bristol,
> UK
>
> Society for the Academic Study of Magic (SASM):
> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC
>
> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=653230719
> ________________________________________
> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic
> [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike
> [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 12 February 2013 13:11
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Dear List ...
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I have been 'lurking' on this list for a few years now and always find it
> a
> useful and professional source of good academic information.
>
> Prof. Segal's behavior was unacceptable on a number of occasions and he
> was
> given more than enough chances to change it. His expulsion from this list
> is both deserved and well overdue, regardless of his academic credentials.
>
> Thankfully, as far as his behavior and attitude is concerned, he is not
> representative of academics in general. Thanks for exercising good
> judgment
> in removing him from this list.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mike
>
> www.esoteric-experience.org.uk
> Mystical Experience Required, Enquire Within!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Green" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 11:40 AM
> Subject: [ACADEMIC-STUDY-MAGIC] Dear List ...
>
>
> Dear list-members,
>
> I thought that I would share this with you. Since the deletion of Prof
> Robert Segal following his many spats with N.W. Azal, I have received a
> number of increasingly abusive offlist rants - to which I won't reply
> because they are pompous, self-regarding and hysterical - regarding his
> disbelief that he was deleted. This is his latest (and thought I would
> share
> because this is clearly what he thinks of the contributors here):
>
> "Your list seems to attract C-listers: nonacademics, career PhD
> students,
> and staffers at former polytechnics.
>
> You never did recognize the difference between disagreement and bigotry.
> It
> is you who should have been apologizing to me.
>
> Our paths will never cross again.
>
> RS
>
>
> The University of Aberdeen is a charity registered in Scotland, No
> SC013683."
>
>
> Ironically, he sought my advice about setting up his the myth JISCMAIL
> list
> because of the positive experiences he had on here. I like the man as an
> academic, though I often disagree with his takes on Jung and Campbell, but
> honestly, is this what academia is about? It's just depressing ...
>
> Dave=
>
Dra. Sonia Bartol Sanchez
Profesora del Máster en Antropologia de Iberoamérica (MAI)
Universidad de Salamanca
http://campus.usal.es/~iiacyl/MAI/
Profesora de la Universidad Internacional de La Rioja (UNIR)
http://www.facebook.com/soniabartol
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