Thanks for all this stuff on Wikipedia stats - it's great timing as I'm currently looking into museums and Wikipedia for Museum Practice magazine.
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jeremy Ottevanger
Sent: 15 January 2013 12:37
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Subject: Re: Wikipedia stats
Nice one Mike and James, I'm not sure how I failed to know about these either, but there you have it. I'm looking forward to the outcome of Wikipedia's current stats project, for which they've been requesting requirements recently, but even if this is basic it's very useful.
It's no great surprise to discover that our pages don't exactly put up much of a fight compared to Wikipedia's equivalent. It's something we've been investigating lately from another angle: how our pages do in Google's search ranking, using the Adwords tools. Clearly, a lot of our juiciest content ranks relatively poorly and gets a very small portion of clickthroughs. It's a bit painful to look at, but on the other hand there's enormous scope for growth. We will be focussing our efforts on our "collections in context" pages (history, to anyone else), which draw on our collections and link to them but act as an introduction to a topic, which on the whole is more like what one finds on Wikipedia (although that does of course also have pages like that on Apollo 10 which pertain to individual objects). We figure that there are probably more people out there looking for, say, "arctic convoys", than most of our objects that pertain to that subject (with the possible exception of HMS Belfast). FWIW, our stats for our own page on the subject (http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/arctic-convoys) so far in January are 124, vs 2522 on Wikipedia's equivalent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arctic_Convoys). So, we have some way to go to even compare respectably, never mind beat it! We are hatching plans for improving the situation and if they pan out I'll let you know. If not, I'll probably keep it to myself
Cheers, Jeremy
Jeremy Ottevanger
Technical Web Manager
Imperial War Museum
Lambeth Road
London SE1 6HZ
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From: Museums Computer Group [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of James Morley
Sent: 15 January 2013 11:39
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Subject: Re: [MCG] Wikipedia stats
Yeah, and another handy thing is if you're on any Wikipedia page got to 'View History' tab (top-right) and on the line near the top starting 'External tools' you'll see a link to 'Page view statistics'.
I used to do this for exactly the same reason that you mention - we'd see spikes of incoming Wikipedia referrals and it was always good to see why.
For example http://stats.grok.se/en/latest/Amorphophallus_titanum will fluctuate wildly depending on whether it was in the news, flowering somewhere in the world. Even on quiet days it ticks along at about 500 page views, compared with (dare I say it the much nicer) http://www.kew.org/plants-fungi/Amorphophallus-titanum.htm which gets about 30 page views per day.
James
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Mike Ellis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi all
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> You probably all knew this already - but I just stumbled across this tool for displaying Wikipedia article page views:
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> http://stats.grok.se/
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> As I consistently sit in meetings suggesting people might want to consider the benefits of putting stuff on Wikipedia rather than on their own museum sites I've been needing something like this to help with my wild conjectures about traffic / social impact / etc.
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> I'd be fascinated to see how traffic compares (well, I know the answer really but would like to know some more detail..) between museum sites and the related Wikipedia page.
>
> So
> http://www.sciencemuseum.org.uk/objects/space_technology/1976-106.aspx
> vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_10
>
> This: http://stats.grok.se/en/latest90/Apollo_10 suggests 250-500 page views per day for that particular Wikipedia article. Wonder what SciM gets - will drop them a line maybe and find out. I can feel a dissertation coming on..
>
> Anyway - may be of use. Data is also available as json so anyone cleverer than me could probably do something cunning with it...
>
> cheers
>
> Mike
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