Dear Robert
Just for the record - I don't think this is about "race" -
which is a concept i'm not sure I accept anymore - "population groups",
perhaps.
I am aware that even concepts like "Europe", or "East" and "West" are
problematic
as they seem to interpenetrate each other -
I'm not trying to be offensive to any group just trying to make sense
with the vocab we have of what I think can be an interesting issue.
I was very struck by the way "black consciousness" thinkers in USA and
elsewhere discovered
the ancient Egyptian Ma'atian "law" codes at same time as neo-pagan
groups did in the "west"?
senebty
Mogg
> Jan. 26
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> Dear Nick,
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> I was going to make the same point. And I was going to add that, contrary to the racism of those who see all "Europeans" as automatically identical in their beliefs, anyone who knows even the most rudimentary thing about Western culture is aware of divisions within it. Hebrews versus "pagans" in ancient times. Hebrews versus Greeks and Romans. Christians versus Jews. Christians versus pagans. Christians versus one another. Scores of divisions within Judaism and Christianity over the relationship of these religions to secular, scientific culture.
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> Have our experts ever read Matthew Arnold on Hebraic versus Hellenic culture?
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> Have they ever heard of Indo-European versus Semitic culture?
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> But hey, what's the point? This self-congratulatory list is ever more a waste of time--with some happy exceptions like your posts.
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> Best,
>
> Robert (proudly Western)
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> Hi,
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> Historical corrections.
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> Abrahamic Is ancient near-eastern, not European ethnocentric
> Greco-Roman was pagan, hence not dismissive of pagan ideas.
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> Nick
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> From: Society for The Academic Study of Magic [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of mandrake
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> N.W. Azal wrote:
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> I'd like to see the dabashi article on franz fanon -
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> Modern neo-pagans also find themselves looking for an ethical framework that avoids the Abrahamic and Greco-Roman
> world view (ie european ethnocentrism) which is so dismissive of pagan ideas.
> The pagan often find themselves sceptical about the
> utility of the restrictive law codes built into modern society.
> Malana Karenga's books has a preface from Jan Assmann,
> one of the most eminent of living egyptologists and interpreters.
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> Hope your research and writing going well
>
> senebty
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> mogg morgan
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> Other than his The Arab Spring<http://www.amazon.com/Arab-Spring-End-Postcolonialism/dp/1780322240/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1359193227&sr=1-1> (which is the only piece of his I totally disagree with) and The World of Persian Literary Humanism<http://www.amazon.com/The-World-Persian-Literary-Humanism/dp/0674066715>, which came out just before xmas, I have all of Dabashi's material as pdfs as well. You are welcome to any of them, Mogg.
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 10:37 AM, mandrake <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
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> Dear N.W. Azal et al
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> Must have missed that last time - i spotted it on Al Jazeera site along with his other
> cultureal reviews of latest films - Zero Dark 30 etc
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> btw my article in Pomegranate -
> https://www.equinoxpub.com/journals/index.php/POM/issue/current
> discusses
> Maulana Karenga and his use of the Ancient Egyptian Maatian "law codes" as basis for a non
> european ethical system - shows some common ground between Pagans and "Black Consciousenss Movement" -
> Its an interest of my - pagan ethics -
> he is an egyptologist / philosopher whose book on Ma'at is really important -
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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maulana_Karenga
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> senebty
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> Mogg Morgan
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> -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maulana_Karenga
> A very good article indeed. I posted this here last week.
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> You should check out some of Dabashi's other works as well, esp. his re-write of Franz Fanon.
> On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:00 PM, mandrake <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> Dear all
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> Interesting article here on european enthocentrism -
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> Can non-Europeans think?<http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/01/2013114142638797542.html>
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> ( http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/01/2013114142638797542.html )
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> mogg
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