what if tools were automatically tagging content they create as ukoer?
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From: Open Educational Resources [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lorna Campbell [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 14 November 2012 15:10
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Hello,

Am I too late to join in?  I've been laid up all day with #ukoercold :}

I've read through the discussions and (surprise, surprise) I agree with Phil and Amber.

Something else to consider....we can talk till we're blue in the face about what we should and shouldn't do, but changing practice is another thing all together.  For better or for worse the ukoer tag is out there in the wild now and it seems to have taken on a life of its own.  It's already been used in ways we didn't originally envisage.  This maybe a good thing or a bad thing, but its definitely a thing. Even if we did decide that this community should start using a different tag now the funded phase of the programmes is over, would people actually do that?  I suspect they might make an effort but I'm not convinced how successful that would be.

I think the community that has formed around ukoer is already starting to demonstrate the sustainability that I believe HEFCE, JISC and the HEA were hoping to see, and as others have said that is arguably a better measure of success than being able to put an exact figure ont he number of resources released.

Right, I'm off for a lemsip now.

Cheers
Lorna

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From: Open Educational Resources [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Frank Manista [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 14 November 2012 15:00
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Didn't Dave White's work on impact point to this very problem -- the iceberg analogy?  The "stuff" is there, but unless we can show people are using the stuff, then just having a count doesn't give us much.  Borges has a short story about a library where there is every book ever written, along with every variation and every rebuttal, but no one can get in or out of the library;)

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Frank

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From: Open Educational Resources [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of David Kernohan [[log in to unmask]]
Sent: 14 November 2012 14:41
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Hark unto Phil, for he speaks truth to humankind.

On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:28:25 -0000, Phil Barker <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> On 14/11/2012 13:37, Sarah Currier wrote:
>> "I would be remiss to not express my misgivings" - which include the
>> fact that it's harder to disambiguate a large number of resources with
>> the same tag expressing different properties ("funded by UKOER" *and*
>> "produced by member of UK OER community"), than to just have a new tag
>> that expresses the new property.
> And
>
> On 14/11/2012 13:51, Jacqueline Carter wrote:
>> ESRC (and possibly other research council) funded projects are required
>> to submit an impact report 12 months after the funding ends. That's why
>> I asked my question about does mapping OER to funding matter. I'm
>> hearing no. That's fine - although as impact is so important for
>> everything we do now I'm not sure I agree wholeheartedly with the
>> consensus being reached via this list.
>
> But I don't think it was ever the aim of the programme just to release a
> number of resources, the aim was sustained release, "turning the tap on"
> was one metaphor. So counting the number of resources is a poor way of
> measuring its impact. Sustainability meant setting up processes so that
> the effects would outlive the funding. I think of resources tagged as
> UKOER as being those where release was facilitated (at least in part) as
> a result of the programme not just those that were directly funded by it.
>
>
> Phil
>
>


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