*Should* we be able to recognise a scientist if we meet one though?
Surely that notion suggests some sort of common trait in their
appearance?
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Lightning, Electrostatics & EMH
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what being involved looks like
It might be interesting to find out whether they would recognise a
scientist if they DID meet one. I'm sure that stereotypes of scientists
are still prevalent to the extent that many people wouldn't be able to
spot a scientist at fifty paces (and of course there is the whole can of
worms of what does count as "scientist" in the first place).
Peter
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Somewhere in the mists of time a survey supposedly asked whether the
respondents had ever met a scientist. I,ve never been able to trace it,
so it may be apochryphal, but it would I think be an interesting
question, adding possibly in what circumstances.
Frank
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Hilary Sutcliffe
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I think it would be useful to categorise what 'being involved in
science' looks like and show that its not all about going to public
dialogues, so they realise they are more involved than they think. So
eg filling in a survey about nutrition in a supermarket, or in about
obesity in a women's mag, or a survey in the street from a campaign
group about their views on climate change, or an Internet survey on
badger culls by a gov dept, or by your utility company about energy use
or a national newspaper poll on gm, or helping a doctor compile info on
an ailment, participating in a dialogue about a new power plant etc etc
is all involvement with science in some way, in that the information is
used to inform views of scientists, social scientists, ngos or companies
on what people think about aspects of science and sometimes changing the
way they do things in response. You might disagree!
In terms of learning about science it's not all about trying to
get your head round the LHC or watching to Brian Cox, or going to a
science centre. Reading more about sports nutrition in a sunday
supplement or signing up for a green energy assessment or reading about
the use of technology in cosmetics in a women's mag, or weather patterns
inThe Sun, or medical advances in the daily mail (?!) or Andy Murrays
fitness regime and why it works is all learning about science in some
way. You may disagree about tat too!
Perhaps list a huge list of ways they can be involved or learn
more and ask them to tick which they have done and which they might do
if asked.
Also might be worth asking which scientists they know, see if
anyone knows anyone other than Brian cox! It might be interesting to
correlate the ups and downs of celeb science with trust in science,
though perhaps you have done that already. Not got time to read again.
Best regards
Hilary
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On 28 Sep 2012, at 10:28 PM, Michael Kenward <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
Looking at that study, it does make mention of
Twitterdom, but I'd have thought that any follow up should go further
into that domain.
For example Figure 8's "Other internet websites (not
science blogs)" is a bit of a catch all. And the report has just two
mentions each for Twitter and Facebook. That does not seem to be in line
with their importance.
The declining readership of newspapers and other print
media suggests that the 33% number is a bit adrift from what really
happens. It probably needs a matching question, or data drawn from other
sources, on what people use to get any information, not just science.
Many people now proudly boast about never reading, let alone buying, a
newspaper.
The 2011 survey does go into some of this, but the
picture it paints does not ring true. Perhaps it needs to move further
in that direction.
In any case, there could be some mileage in asking
internet folks some of the same questions posed about how much people
trust print media.
MK
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Thanks Bob. There is some stuff on trust in scientists
on p41/42 of the 2011 survey
http://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/sri-pas-2011-main-report.pdf
including a passing reference to climate change. Do suggest
specification for any more specific focus offline.
Another possible dimension, on which list members might
like to comment, is the value of a 'Scientists Attitudes to Science'
survey. Would we expect scientists' views in many areas to be
significantly different from the general public, and would we ask many
of the same questions...? (and some different?).
Roland
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Hi Roland,
I would have responded off-list, but this may be of
interest to list members.
It would be good if the next public attitudes survey
could explore in more depth issues around public trust in scientists,
not just as a single group but also in terms of the different subject
areas.
A new report that has just been published this afternoon
shows that only 38% of the public trust climate scientists to tell the
truth about global warming:
http://www.lwec.org.uk/publications/climate-science-public-and-news-medi
a
This contrasts with the annual Ipsos-MORI survey of
trust in professions which regularly finds that scientists are among the
most trusted to generally tell the truth, with 71% of the public
agreeing in the most recent poll:
http://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/Veracity2011.pdf
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I'm joining the Steering Group for the next Public
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think past surveys have missed, and of things that could be dropped.
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