Just to second Nick, Crispin, Phil, et al.
It is incredibly helpful to know about desk based activities when undertaking new projects. To my mind, it's about creating a heritage index that is of most use to researchers. A key element is knowing the study area(s) for any such previous work; Being able to search, particularly spatially, for relevant Event records is of enormous benefit. Recording the outputs solely as a Source record attached to a Monument(s) does not adequately achieve this, so there is a danger any subsequent work may not appropriately reference all relevant previous work.
As has been pointed out previously, recording such activities as Event records is compliant with existing standards such as CIDOC-CRM and MIDAS and does not preclude recording any report(s) as Sources associated with the Event and the Monument(s) should you so wish.
So +1 here for recording desk based activities as Events.
Cheers,
Paul.
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Boldrini
Sent: 19 October 2012 09:06
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Been away and just catching up with emails - this implies to me that you can only gather evidence from fieldwork?
So, that means AP interpretation isn't an event either?
As I interpret the definition given in the Thesaurus Introduction, I think they both are, and would record them.
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 18 October 2012 11:29
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Ok I will go on about it again. The site visit is the event - the DBA is the source.
Do you record entries in Pevsner as an event?
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records on behalf of Jenny Hall
Sent: Wed 17/10/2012 11:18
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Surely the site visit results in primary evidence? We certainly end up with a photographic archive.
Jenny
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Hi, Chris
We do record the fieldwork the DBAs and EIAs may contain as events (usually surveys.). The DBAs, EIAs, etc which contain no events but are a collation of secondary evidence are recorded as sources.
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of CARLISLE, Philip
Sent: 17 October 2012 10:28
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Hi Chris,
Maybe you could qualify this by saying 'In my opinion'. In a recent ALGAO survey 76% of respondents said that they recorded these as events.
Phil
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chris Webster
Sent: 16 October 2012 17:15
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Subject: Re: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
I don't want to go round this again but these are not events, they should be in the HER as sources for the monuments they describe.
Chris Webster
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From: Issues related to Historic Environment Records [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Orr
Sent: 16 October 2012 16:53
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Subject: Heritage Impact Assessments - Event Types or not?
Dear all
Is anyone else recording good Heritage Impact Assessments as Events in their HERs? If so, what Event Type (as in the NMR Event Type Thesaurus - http://thesaurus.english-heritage.org.uk/thesaurus.asp?thes_no=566) do you categorise them as? There isn't currently a specific term for them, and the scope notes for DBA, EIA and Historic Area Assessment aren't really right for what we see coming in with planning applications. I know there is some scepticism about whether work like DBAs should be considered as Events (and not simply as Sources) but it makes sense from the point of view of data structure to record them as such. I would also argue that well researched assessments do add a lot to HERs and should be flagged up as pieces of work. Is there a need for a new thesaurus term of Heritage Impact Assessment do you think?
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