Yes, it also brings to mind that a film adaptation of a book is always a
new work and I'm tempted to say the same with a website and a book unless
it literally just is one big PDF of the text. I'd always expect there to be
added content or different content with links and possibly other
functionality.
A CD-ROM is different and they do often literally just include the full
text of the book in PDF.
On Oct 25 2012, Lee, Deborah wrote:
> I agree about the task of deciding whether the website was a W/E/M is
> complicated without seeing the website. I just read the description,
> which I read as being something independent which had a lot of content
> not directly related to the text, i.e. a general resource for cataloguing
> non-print materials, but this might just be me and I wish that I had had
> time to look at the website ... Certainly brings up some interesting
> issues about the relationship between companion websites and texts!
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Debbie
>
>Deborah Lee
>Senior cataloguer
>Book Library
>Courtauld Institute of Art
>Somerset House
>Strand
>London WC2R 0RN
>
>Telephone: 020 7848 2905
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>Now on at The Courtauld Gallery:
>
>Peter Lely: A Lyrical Vision
>11 October 2012 - 13 January 2013
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Doyle Sent: 25
> October 2012 14:27 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 9 - discussion
>
>I couldn't think of anything better!
>
> One of my (numerous) issues with this one was that I didn't know what was
> on the CD/website. If they are essentially the book but just in a
> different format, then I think that's a related manifestation. But if
> they have new/extra/different content, I thought they'd be related
> expressions - RDA's example of related expressions includes
> expanded/revised/abridged versions of things.
>
> But then, if the authors conceived of their project as a
> "book-with-a-CD-and-a-website", does that make all three bits part of one
> overarching Work?
>
>HelenD.
>
>Helen Doyle
>Assistant Librarian
>
>Royal Academy of Dance
>36 Battersea Square
>London
>SW11 3RA
>0207 326 8032
>
>
>>>> Helen Williams <[log in to unmask]> 10/25/2012 2:18 pm >>>
> Helen, I like the 'expanded by' related expression you've added for the
> CD ROM. I'd not thought of that.
>
> In terms of the website, which quite a few of us seem unsure about, I
> opted for related expression, because it looked too different from the
> book to be a related manifestation, but I wasn't sure if it constituted a
> new work.
>
>Helen
>
> -----Original Message----- From: CIG E-Forum
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Doyle Sent: 25
> October 2012 14:09 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:
> [CIG-E-FORUM] Record 9
>
>Me too! No. 9 attached.
>
>Helen Doyle
>Assistant Librarian
>
>Royal Academy of Dance
>36 Battersea Square
>London
>SW11 3RA
>0207 326 8032
>
>
>>>> Bernadette Mary O'Reilly <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> 10/25/2012 2:03 pm >>>
>Nervous about this one. I've hardly looked at RDA for non-print yet.
>Hoping other people will provide me with some good models.
>
>
>
> Also interested in how far people record companion websites. We often
> ignore them, because they either are available only to purchasers or
> cease to be available pretty soon, so readers would get mad ; but this
> policy verges on misrepresentation, since it may suggest that the
> resource is freestanding when it isn't.
>
>
>
>Best wishes,
>
>Bernadette
>
>
>
>Record 9. Describing electronic, digital, and ....
>
>
>
>Field
>
>Ind.
>
>Data
>
>RDA Inst.
>
>LDR/7
>
>
>
>m
>
>
>
>LDR/18
>
>
>
>i
>
>
>
>008/22
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>008/35-37
>
>
>
>eng
>
>
>
>020
>
>
>
>$a9781856046848
>
>
>
>040
>
>##
>
>$e rda
>
>
>
>100
>
>1#
>
>$aWeber, Mary Beth,
>
>$eauthor.
>
>
>
>245
>
>10
>
>$aDescribing electronic, digital, and other media using AACR2 and RDA :
>
>$ba how-to-do-it manual and CD-ROM for librarians /
>
>$cMary Beth Weber, Fay Angela Austin.
>
>
>
>250
>
>##
>
>$aUK edition.
>
>
>
>264
>
>#1
>
>$aLondon :
>
>$bFacet Publishing,
>
>$c2011.
>
>
>
>264
>
>#4
>
>$c(c)2011.
>
>
>
>300
>
>##
>
>$axviii, 301 p. :
>
>$billustrations,
>
>$c28 cm +
>
>$e1 CD-ROM.
>
>
>
>336
>
>##
>
>$atext $2rdacontent
>
>
>
>337
>
>##
>
>$aunmediated$rdamedia
>
>
>
>338
>
>##
>
>$avolume$2rdacarrier
>
>
>
>336
>
>##
>
>$aunspecified$2rdacontent
>
>
>
>337
>
>##
>
>$acomputer$rdamedia
>
>
>
>338
>
>##
>
>$acomputer disc$2rdacarrier
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Companion website is too feeble to be worth 3XX.
>
>
>
>500
>
>##
>
> $aAccompanying CD-ROM provides guidance for creating descriptive records,
> links to online sources and templates (MARC, MODS, Dublin Core).
>
>
>
>500
>
>##
>
> $aCompanion website has links to mainstream cataloguing resources, some
> of them subscription-only.
>
>
>
>500
>
>##
>
>$aPublished simultaneously in U.S.A. by Neal-Schuman.
>
>
>
>500
>
>##
>
>$aReplaces: Cataloging nonprint and internet resources. U.S. :
>Neal-Schuman, 2002.
>
>
>
> This was the best I could do with the idea that the earlier work was the
> 'predecessor' of the current one. The term suggests a different work, not
> just an earlier version, so I'm treating the 2011 resource as a new work.
>
>
>
> I'm sticking to the old AACR2 format for citations, because it is simple
> and neat. Hard to explain to new cataloguers, though, because there are
> no areas of description nowadays.
>
>
>
>
>
>700
>
>1#
>
>$aWeber, Mary Beth.
>
>$tCataloging nonprint and internet resources.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>01865 2-77134
>
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