Gary, I thought the whole idea was to encourage them to consider a career as a Health Librarian, not put them off!!
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Sadly they will all be the same anecdote: HDAS didn't work, I contacted "Contact Us" who didn't bother to contact me. It eventually stumbled on again...
Gary
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From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Conway Des - Head of Knowledge Resources
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Brilliant!
In relation to the other main thread on LIS-Medical, I wonder how many lovely (printable) anecdotes we are going to get in relation to HDAS for future generations!
Des
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And now Leanne has another anecdote...
"and then one day, a mass debate started as to what the correct plural of the word penis is!"
As the kids today say - LOL
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The plural is either penises or penes
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Should that not be 'peni' Des ?
Barbara
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In the first year of opening our (health promotion) Resource Centre
<http://www.knowledgeresources.nottinghamcity.nhs.uk/> in Nottingham (circa
1991) a School Nurse came up to me and asked "Have you got an ejaculating
penis"? I had no idea what she was talking about but the words "could be
arranged" did spring briefly to mind. The subsequent conversation then
proceeded to enlighten me on her request and of course, we now stock four
Condom Training Models (or ejaculating penises as she described them) and
they are amongst our most popular items for loan with teachers and youth
workers!
Des J
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I missed the original query but would like to add my contribution - I was
asked to find out the average sitting height of an adult (how long is a
piece of string ?)
Apparently they were doing research into what they call the 'dangly legged'
syndrome for people in wheelchairs.
Worst query - a consultant asked me to do a literature search on 'quality'.
best
Barbara
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The anecdotes.
Thanks again everyone- I have just spent the last few minutes chuckling. J
Leanne
PS- original Word doc rejected so long email instead - apologies.
The anecdote I use when I am talking to groups of new users so they never
feel like they may have a stupid question, was the day I was asked by one of
the doctors to recommend a film to take his wife to on Valentines Day. My
second favourite query from an overseas doctor was about the history of the
relationship between Scotland and England - sum that up in a few sentences!
Both of these began with because you are a librarian you can help me .....
A proper clinical(ish) one was a doctor running into the library in full
scrubs, grabbing an anatomy book shouting at me he would bring it back later
and then running out again. Surprisingly he did return the book and I was
too scared to ask where he had been using it.
I come from Tobermory on the Isle of Mull where Balamory was filmed, I am
asked about where are good places to stay and how much is the ferry.
1) Being asked to look for articles or reports published by Jo Brand
when she was a mental health nurse (I failed to find any, but apparently she
did contribute to a DH report). This was for the trust chairman when she was
attending a function; he wanted to introduce her as' the author of ...')
2) Finding out whether a particular cartoon by Neil Kerber was
copyright or freely available to reproduce. The Information Department
wanted it for the first issue of their newsletter. Unfortunately this
publication was strangled at birth by the Head of Information, so my work
was wasted! I did discover NK's delightful cartoons, though.
3) Being asked to find the East Enders aerial photograph of London for
a director's presentation, so that she could show where Lambeth was. I
failed here too; there is an extensive East Enders website, but no aerial
photograph.
More strange searches: a colleague of mine described at a critical appraisal
workshop how he was once asked (by a psychiatrist) to search for material on
exorcism. Another colleague was asked by ward staff to prepare an evidence
summary on the effects of the menstrual cycle on rates of psychiatric
admission.
Not really an anecdote but I have used it as a bit of humour in library
inductions. One of the unusual questions I'm asked is does the library lend
skeletons or actual bones. Or if we don't where can you buy/borrow
skeletons for teaching purposes?
I get to join a ward round once a week on the neonatal unit, seeing lots of
babies. As this is my weekly clinical librarian slot, anything I find out
goes to make the babies better.
Best thing about being a librarian (in general) is when someone comes in all
stressed and not able to find things, and goes out happy with the
information they needed. (And then often they'll show all their colleagues
how to access resources, and there's an increase of their colleagues using
the library too.)
Most exciting are when somebody needs something quickly for a patient - "get
me everything you can about x condition, we've just found out what's wrong
and they are coming in to clinic tomorrow" style of thing.
Most of my funny stories are to do with my previous job in FE and not fit
for a school audience except as cautionary tales.
This was a very long time ago. When I was working at the BMA library I had
a phone call to ask about an article in the current weeks BMJ.
There was an item about a person who had tried to commit suicide using a
hose attached to an exhaust but had failed. The question was - which car
was it?
I had a surgeon come out of theatre in his scrubs and ask for a textbook
with a particular stitch technique because he hasn't done it before. I found
the book and he went back to the operation in theatre.
I also had a young woman come in and ask for a book on worms. I showed her
to section on tropical medicines and parasites. I thought she was a nurse.
It turned out she had escaped from the mental health ward. She thought she
had the worm stuck in her throat.
Not focused on Libraries as careers but, we do a lot of work with school
kids interested in being doctors or nurses. If they show interest and come
on placement at the Trust, they tend to spend between 1 hour to ½ a day in
the Library. I try to teach them good practice with searching before they
start and refer them to "So you want to be doctor days" or "open days" with
the University if the interest persists.
General things I do is get them to guess why there is a Library in a
hospital (research, support training & evidence based practice), I ask them
to use the library in any way to find out the meaning of some ologies. Even
after an internet demo, being shown the catalogue etc. they still browse
the shelves. That is apart from one enterprising pupil who asked a studying
doctor. I find it mimics our average user particularly well.
A tale I always tell is of one literature search I was ask to do at a
different Trust years ago, to show the importance of evidence.
One day I had a very worried lost looking doctor approach me. A patient had
come in who was desperate for children, but had cancer of the womb. She was
put on fertility treatment, but it didn't take in time and the woman lost
her womb. A few months later the woman fell pregnant with an ectopic
pregnancy where the foetus attached to the intestine. I did an
international literature search with only a relatively few case studies
found and hardly any survived. Using the evidence of what went right and
what went wrong, they managed to save the baby. I believe the mother was on
morning telly with 'the miracle baby', but I didn't see the programme
personally. I then had to help the doctor get the case report published, so
other doctors could learn from it if it happened again.
That was one of the more unusual ones, but I usually say not everything has
an answer. How do you treat a bleeding nose?
The other thing that impresses is when they find out we know about social
networking and new technologies. Not many of the kids on placement I see
know about QR Codes, or I like doing a demo of the Turning the Pages on the
British Library to explain the importance of using 'new' technology to
improve access to rare resources. Da Vinci or Alice Underground are the two
popular ones I find.
Mmm. The time a patient's relative wandered in (how did he FIND us?), and
asked if we stocked Haynes Car Manuals....
All the (many) boxes of chocolates/tins of biscuits given us throughout the
year, by grateful PhDs....
The way we can ask a consultant to give us a hand getting the clock off the
wall, as he's tall.....
The belated return of a book (after threats from Finance) with the comment
"Why didn't you ask my Consultant?" {WTF???}
A junior doctor went to a Doctor's Mess dinner one evening, got very drunk,
and for some reason came back into the Library. He then passed out at a
computer, and at some point threw up all over it. He was discovered by a
member of domestic staff next morning, who sent him packing with the
keyboard to clean it up. I never saw that computer in the same light after
that...............
I suppose the thing I have to offer is a case of what a health librarian
isn't. I was an outreach librarian and was training someone who wanted me to
do a search on pyrexia. I asked her what pyrexia was and she looked at me in
absolute astonishment and said 'I thought librarians know everything!!'
Shame I had to disillusion her!
Oh I have a great one. I set up the library for medical charity, the
Scottish Motor Neurone Disease Association (now rebranded as MND Scotland).
Once I answered the phone to someone who asked me if it was the Neutered
Moron Society. It was very difficult to not burst out laughing and maintain
some dignity to help them!
The library got a phonecall from a doctor mid-surgery to ask if they held a
particular book on the foot.
Quick check of the catalogue, yes we did.
A short while later, doctor appeared in scrubs to collect the book - and
returned it as soon as the surgery was over!
Oh my goodness... I would have plenty of anecdotes, but not necessarily
relating to health librarians (except where the vagaries of NHS bureaucracy
are concerned, such as in trying to purchase a coat hook!). I'm sure it
could happen in any library that a research student comes and asks you to
administer eye drops because her housemates won't know how to do it; or a
young mother newly returned to work asks if she can keep her expressed milk
in the library fridge; or a library user yanks down her trousers to show the
(male) librarian the tattoo on her bum; or the library manager buys a bird
sound clock for her office, thus surprising her regional colleagues when the
robin begins to sing in the middle of a webex meeting, or...
The classic anecdote we always wheel out is an enquiry that came through
from (we think!) some students who were trying to come up with some original
health research. They asked if anyone had previously looked into whether
super-fast zombies could be engineered and if not how would they go about
doing this themselves. They referred to the speedy zombies as 'zoombies'. I
don't know whether this was an amusing pun or a genuine error!
Otherwise I would say that it's quite exciting when you see research you
have helped undertake be used in a report or something that is then featured
and discussed on the news.
Also that you are helping clinicians treat people more safely, as they need
the evidence to be gathered and evaluated by information professionals to
reduce DEATH!
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