I couldn't possibly do that here! - You could e-mail me off list if
you'd like!
Becky.
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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:12:17 +0100
From: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport.
To: Rebecca Jay Dutneall <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Cool! I've never been given free food in return for suggestions as to how
> to improve accessibility - we should get you to share your tips and
> tricks/sweet-talking ways with the rest of us.
>
> Anyone see George Osbourne getting boo'ed by the crowd yesterday? What
> bright spark thought inviting him to present the medals for one of the
> events was anything other than utterly tactless? As a mate said, he didn't
> even have the sensitivity to be embarassed, he just laughed it off as
> though all he'd done was sneek an extra biscuit off the plate!
> Laura
> On 3 September 2012 22:05, Rebecca Jay Dutneall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Well, it doesn't help that I choose to stay in an executive room rather
>> than a standard or accessible room! - although thanks to my direct payments
>> for respite care my Social Services (or the tax payer) is paying a
>> proportion of my hotel bill - there again because I have given the
>> management here some helpful tips to improve the hotel, the staff are
>> feeding and watering me for free!, not bad, huh?
>>
>> I can't plug the laptop into the tv because its mounted to the wall in a
>> case. The manager has said I can use a PC in the business suite if needs
>> be, I'll see if the internet works tomorrow - I want to watch the swimming!
>>
>> The manager said she will make sure it is known that I am unhappy about
>> the unsatisfactory coverage of the Paralympics in the guest rooms - I'll
>> just have to get dressed and watch it in the bar!
>>
>> Becky.
>>
>>
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>> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 21:31:08 +0100
>> From: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport.
>> To: Rebecca Jay Dutneall <[log in to unmask]>
>> Cc:
>> [log in to unmask]**ac.uk<[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>> The cheapskates have only provided the minimum, 'free', programmes by the
>>> sound of it. How crap is that! Bet they charging a fortune for the room
>>> tho' ....
>>>
>>> You could get your own back perhaps by plugging the laptop into the tv
>>> screen and playing the internet broadcasts through it.
>>>
>>> Just a thought
>>>
>>> Laura
>>>
>>> On 3 September 2012 18:20, Rebecca Jay Dutneall <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Interesting point there Laura, but would it surprise you to know, I am
>>>> currently staying in a Holiday Inn in London, as you may know Holiday Inn
>>>> is supporting The Olympic and Paralympic Games but I can't access the
>>>> additional Channel 4 Paralympic Channels via the tv in the bedroom and
>>>> have
>>>> to watch it off a laptop - I foresaw that this might happen, so spent £60
>>>> to hire a laptop from my University - one good thing though this hotel
>>>> has
>>>> only recently opened, and the Owners took the decision not to charge for
>>>> internet access, although it is patchy!
>>>>
>>>> Every cloud has a silver lining - apparently!
>>>>
>>>> Becky.
>>>>
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>>>> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:06:26 +0100
>>>> From: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Reply-To: laura welti <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re: The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport.
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]****AC.UK<DISABILITY-RESEARCH@**
>>>> JISCMAIL.AC.UK <[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Maria
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, it seems many other countries are not really giving the paralympics
>>>>> any tv coverage. A case of 'same old, same old' I'm afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a real pity because the programming is/could have been available
>>>>> had
>>>>> non-UK tv stations wanted it. Balancing this just a tiny bit is that
>>>>> the
>>>>> para/lympic village has, for the first time ever, been built for
>>>>> Disabled
>>>>> people rather than has been the case previously where the villages have
>>>>> been built to non-Disabled people specifications then stripped (and
>>>>> marginally adapted) for the Disabled athletes once the olympics has
>>>>> finished.
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if you want to follow events, the tv channel providing the UK
>>>>> coverage also has footage of quite a few of the events on its website.
>>>>> Just go to www.channel4.com.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have live coverage and recorded events (via their 'on demand'
>>>>> programming), with links available on the home page. For recorded
>>>>> events
>>>>> follow the links to 4oD.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps you - the performances have been incredible this year,
>>>>> with new world records being set right, left and centre!
>>>>> Laura
>>>>> On 3 September 2012 13:45, Maria Barile <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Without doubts, you are right, sport, like politic, by the very nature
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> exclusionary. Whereas, I must say with much disappointment, those of
>>>>>> us
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> Quebec are deprived from following the London event, compared to
>>>>>> what I
>>>>>> recall of the Vancouver games. There paralympic got lots more media
>>>>>> coverage.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It seems to me, it would make sense to at least have the opening and
>>>>>> closing Olympic/ paralympic ceremonies together. It would allow
>>>>>> general
>>>>>> population to gain a different perspective. Vancouver did that a
>>>>>> little,
>>>>>> and already it achieved some recognition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All I have seen in Quebec media about the London paralympic is how
>>>>>> unprepared your transport system has been, I think, however, that is
>>>>>> meant
>>>>>> stop those of us who complain about our transport system; interesting
>>>>>> strategy for politicians in mist of a divisive election campaign .
>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Howe" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]******AC.UK<DISABILITY-RESEARCH@**
>>>>>> **
>>>>>> JISCMAIL.AC.UK
>>>>>> <[log in to unmask]**AC.UK<[log in to unmask]>
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 2:16 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By its very nature sport is exclusionary. It has always been based on
>>>>>>> achieving the aims: higher, faster and stronger. Not all impairment
>>>>>>> groups
>>>>>>> are included in the Paralympic Games and certainly not all those
>>>>>>> eligible
>>>>>>> will have the physical talent to be involved at the highest level.
>>>>>>> Combining the Olympics and Paralympic into one movement does not
>>>>>>> remove
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> exclusion associated with high performance sport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Paralympic Movement is far from perfect. It is my belief that
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> need to be more former Paralympians involved in the running of the
>>>>>>> movement
>>>>>>> and the stars of London 2012 have to be encouraged to take an interest
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the movement during their time as athletes so that in retirement they
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> harness their energies on making the movement better!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. P. David Howe
>>>>>>> Senior Lecturer in Anthropology of Sport
>>>>>>> Sport Culture and Policy Lead
>>>>>>> Peter Harrison Centre for Disability Sport
>>>>>>> School of Sport, Exercise and Health Sciences
>>>>>>> Loughborough University
>>>>>>> UK LE11 3TU
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.****peterharrisoncent**re.org.uk/****David_Howe.html<http://re.org.uk/**David_Howe.html>
>>>>>>> <http://**peterharrisoncentre.org.uk/****David_Howe.html<http://peterharrisoncentre.org.uk/**David_Howe.html>
>>>>>>> >
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Subject: The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Paralympics represents apartheid in sport. If they really want to
>>>>>>> address the issue of exclusion of disabled people in society, we need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> have one Olympics that includes all sports played by people who are
>>>>>>> interested in sport. Of course for the events we have to be fair and
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> contestants need to be roughly equal, so there needs to be women's
>>>>>>> events,
>>>>>>> men's events and events with people with physical impairments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To allow a company that is implicated in the deaths of over thirty
>>>>>>> disabled people to be one of the sponsors of the Paralympics is
>>>>>>> unforgivable. This fact alone reveals that the organizers of
>>>>>>> Paralympics do
>>>>>>> not want any real positive change in society for the vast majority of
>>>>>>> disabled people.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Much is made (by the media) of the origin of the Paralympics being the
>>>>>>> Stoke Mandeville games, however they used to break the Glenn Eagles
>>>>>>> Agreement and allowed wounded South African soldiers to participate in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sports, many of the South African team got their physical impairments
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> Anglo while trying to invade. This was successfully challenged by
>>>>>>> disabled
>>>>>>> people by taking direct action in the early 1980's and the connection
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> Apartheid sport was finally broken.
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