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Re: Coursera

From:

Fred Riley <[log in to unmask]>

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Open Educational Resources <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Wed, 8 Aug 2012 20:36:44 +0100

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Oh my, this is getting awfully recursive. Maybe there'll be a future
course on MOOC studies...

Fred

On 8 August 2012 20:11, Brandon Muramatsu <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> For those of you that are interested (and haven't seen it yet), there's this
> event next week...
>
> Join Next Week’s MOOC of MOOCs at Hybrid Pedagogy
> http://chronicle.com/blogs/profhacker/join-next-weeks-mooc-of-moocs-at-hybrid-pedagogy/41485
>
> "Next week, starting on Monday, Hybrid Pedagogy is launching a MOOC MOOC,
> that is, a massively open online course that aims to study the pedagogical
> and institutional implication of the emergence of these classes."
>
>
> Register at: http://www.moocmooc.com/
>
> (Which is nearly impossible to find in the article. Requires Twitter for
> some reason.)
>
>
> Brandon
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Amber THOMAS <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All
>>
>> Interesting thread.
>>
>> I wonder if what's needed here, amongst all the many celebrations and
>> critiques is ...
>>
>> If a MOOC is the answer, what was the question?
>>
>> Is it for long-tail high level learning opportunities benefiting from the
>> networked effect of digital scholarship - then it's a good answer
>> Is it for networking academics across disciplinary and geographical
>> boundaries - ditto
>> Is it for platforms for mass participatory learning - yes, also yes
>> Is it lifelong learning for the mass intelligensia?
>> http://philosophyforlife.org/melvyn-bragg-on-the-rise-of-the-mass-intelligentsia/
>> Yes maybe
>> There is a lot to be said for the model.
>>
>> However if the question is supposed to be widening inclusion to higher
>> education, then I am sceptical.
>> This is also my concern about OERu.
>> http://toucansproject.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/it-feels-good-to-give-but-does-it-feel-good-to-get/.
>>
>> What seems to happen in the discourse around MOOCs is that, as Andy says,
>> open is extrapolated to mean inclusion. I share the concerns about these
>> encounters with learning being dissatisfying, and worse, off-putting.
>>
>> I'm a pretty self-motivated learner and have signed up for a MOOC this
>> autumn. But I am not confident I can make it work for me in my lifestyle.
>> I'll probably be one of the drop-outs. I can afford to take that risk. But
>> would I rely on this for my critical learning needs? Nope.
>>
>> So the worse case scenario is that we extrapolate from the successes
>> against the first set of criteria to claim that MOOCs are a solution to
>> extending higher education to people currently outside HE. Pile 'em high,
>> sell 'em cheap.
>>
>>
>> Amber
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Open Educational Resources [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
>> Behalf Of A.B.Lane
>> Sent: 03 August 2012 12:29
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Coursera
>>
>> Pat, more than that 40 % were tech professionals, 20% graduates and 12%
>> undergrads so over 70% from the educationally advantaged groups and very few
>> from other groups. Openness does not in itself support inclusion - the OU
>> has always been aware of the revolving door syndrome whereby those with low
>> confidence etc can struggle and then give up hitting their confidence even
>> more.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Ps @ DavidK perhaps you should write a paper for OER13 on your ds106
>> experiences
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>
>

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