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Re: Question on stereo monitor: LG D2342P-PN

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Zhijie Li <[log in to unmask]>

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Zhijie Li <[log in to unmask]>

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Thu, 9 Aug 2012 14:26:42 -0400

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Hello,

We have received our LG D2342P-PN monitor yesterday and did a little test. 
Simply put, it works perfectly for stereo display on COOT and Chimera. We 
didn't test pymol, as the 0.99 version doesn't have support for the Zalman 
mode. But the educational version of the new pymol seems to have the Zalman 
mode.

Here I list some observations:
1. We had a Zalman ZM-M215W monitor shortly before this one. The two models 
are quite comparable to each other.
2. Both the Zalman and the LG D2342P emit circular polarized light. So 
simple linear polarization films won't be able to separate the light from 
the odd and even lines. But the 3D stereo cinemas are of the same type. My 
3D stereo glasses from a cinema is about 45 degrees counter-clockwise off 
the LG glasses' axes, but the left and right images are not switched. So it 
can work OK with the LG monitors, with only a little ghost image, and if I 
tilt my head to the left then it is as clean as the LG glasses. On the other 
hand, except for the two pairs of glasses came with the monitor, I haven't 
figured out where to buy extra glasses yet.
3. Both Zalman and LG D2342P have wide horizontal viewing angles, but 
limited vertical viewing angle (maybe 20-40 degrees) for the stereo display 
(2D display is not limited). This is probably due to that there is a 
distance between the polarizer layer and the pixel layer so that if viewed 
from an angle above or below, some light from one row of pixels would have 
to travel through the line of polarizer one row above or below and then the 
polarization is mixed - just my guess.
4. Both Zalman and LG D2342P can work on any computer with a VGA or DVI 
output and have nothing to do with the operating systems. No special driver 
is needed. We tested them on our desktops and laptops, in Linux, real and VM 
Windows. They worked just fine in all cases.

Regards,

Zhijie

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From: "William G. Scott" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 10:52 AM
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Question on stereo monitor: LG D2342P-PN

> Dear Zhijie:
>
> I saw this for under $300 at Amazon's Showroom and wondered the same 
> thing.  I can verify that the LG TV will work with coot, etc., as long as 
> you turn OFF all stereographic processing and allow the software to do the 
> work.  There is an extremely detailed review of this at 
> http://www.amazon.com/LG-D2342P-PN-23-Inch-Widescreen-Passive/dp/B004WK3R4U/ref=cm_cr-mr-title 
> by Bill Costa (he gives his email address at the end).  He seems to 
> suggest that the 3D glasses for the LG TV are not compatible with this, 
> which left me scratching my head.
>
> Having said that, I'll bet it will work fine.  If you can get it from Best 
> Buy for under $300 and return it within 30 days for a full refund, it 
> might be worth it.
>
> Either way, let us know.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> William G. Scott
> Professor
> Department of Chemistry and Biochemistry
> and The Center for the Molecular Biology of RNA
> 228 Sinsheimer Laboratories
> University of California at Santa Cruz
> Santa Cruz, California 95064
> USA
>
>
>
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Zhijie Li wrote:
>
>> Dear CCP4BBers:
>>
>> Sorry to bring up this highly repeated topic again. After some internet 
>> research, we are about to make the commitment to buy an LG D2342P-PN for 
>> setting up a stereo system. I would like to have a final confirmation 
>> from someone with real life experience that this model does work with 
>> COOT and Chimera the same way as the Zalman monitors. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Zhijie 

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