Beto
Your (sweeping) statement in your previous email "unscientificism is at
the very core of christianity" did not sound very tolerant and I am sure
that Sir Isaac Newton would have disagreed with you!
Stuart Burgess
On Sat, August 25, 2012 2:47 am, Beto Cruz wrote:
> now, if all the religious people in the world had this approach of
> understanding and tolerance, the problem of fundamentalism would be
> solved...
>
> peace be unto you bro..
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Hisham Abdel-Aal <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:06 PM
> Subject: Re: I know it's not biomimetics, but . . .
>
>
> As a Muslim I can claim that no other religion has been stabbed at, at
> least lately, more than Islam and its followers :) yet I don't find that
> particular post offensive. My question to each of you, regardless of
> religious notions, had you had a student who gave such an answer (provided
> that he/she are real, what would you feel about him and why?? I argue that
> for a real scientist or for those who value ideas, such a student would be
> the pride of his/her Professor. Frankly if one's belief is threatened
> because of an internet posting, that is more of a reason for a self pause
> and re-evaluation. My sincere apologies if I offend any one, peace.
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Julian Vincent <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> Sorry if you find it offensive. However, if you read it carefully you
> will see that it applies equally to all religions and beliefs that have
> some sort of eternal reward and punishment system built in to them. I am
> sure that if it were translated into other languages it would find exactly
> the same resonance. The argument presented could not function if it took
> a sectarian point of view. And the story ultimately relates to human
> behaviour rather to any particular morality. So please don't feel that
> your beliefs are being unfairly targeted. Any strong belief system can
> cope with humour.
>>
>>Best wishes
>>Julian
>>
>>
>>On 24 Aug 2012, at 19:08, Prof Andy McIntosh wrote:
>>
>>> Julian - As a Christian I am pretty saddened that you have allowed this
>>> on
>>> the biomimetics link. The article you forwarded I know is tongue in
>>> cheek,
>>> but pertains to (in the main) Christian teaching of a real place of
>>> eternal
>>> punishment. The subject matter and the references to 'Hell freezing
>>> over,'
>>> 'Hell let loose,' and immorality I was not expecting on this
>>> professional
>>> link which in other respects I have found to be scientifically
>>> valuable.
>>>
>>> Regards - Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> Professor Andy C. McIntosh DSc, FIMA, C.Math, FEI, C.Eng, FInstP,
>>> MIGEM,
>>> FRAeS
>>>
>>> Professor of Thermodynamics and Combustion Theory,
>>> Energy and Technology Innovation Initiative (ETII)
>>> School of Process, Environmental and Materials Engineering,
>>> University of Leeds,
>>> LEEDS
>>> LS2 9JT
>>> U..K.
>>> Phone : +44-113-343 2506
>>> Fax : +44-113-246 7310
>>> http://www.engineering.leeds.ac.uk/people/speme/staff/a.c.mcintosh
>>> ###########################################################
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Engineers and biologists mechanical design list
>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Julian Vincent
>>> Sent: 23 August 2012 22:06
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: I know it's not biomimetics, but . . .
>>>
>>> The following is an actual (?) question given on a University of
>>> Washington
>>> chemistry mid-term. The answer by one student was so 'profound' that
>>> the
>>> professor shared it with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of
>>> course,
>>> why we now have the pleasure of enjoying it as well:
>>>
>>> Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic
>>> (absorbs
>>> heat)?
>>>
>>> Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law
>>> (gas
>>> cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.
>>>
>>> One student, however, wrote the following:-
>>>
>>> First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we
>>> need
>>> to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at
>>> which
>>> they are leaving.
>>>
>>> I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it
>>> will not
>>> leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
>>>
>>> As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
>>> religions that exist in the world today.
>>>
>>> Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their
>>> religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these
>>> religions and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we
>>> can
>>> project that all souls go to Hell. With birth and death rates as they
>>> are,
>>> we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially.
>>>
>>> Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell because
>>> Boyle's Law
>>> states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay
>>> the
>>> same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are
>>> added.
>>> This gives two possibilities:
>>>
>>>
>>> If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls
>>> enter
>>> Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all
>>> Hell
>>> breaks loose.
>>> If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in
>>> Hell,
>>> then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
>>> So which is it? If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during
>>> my
>>> Freshman year that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with
>>> you,'
>>> and take into account the fact that I slept with her last night, then
>>> number
>>> two must be true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has
>>> already
>>> frozen over.
>>>
>>> The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it
>>> follows
>>> that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore,
>>> extinct......leaving only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a
>>> divine
>>> being which explains why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'
>>>
>>> THIS STUDENT RECEIVED AN A+.
>>
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